Re: ceph hammer : rbd info/Status : operation not supported (95) (EC+RBD tier pools)

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Hello,

just to close this up as far as my upgrade is concerned. 

I choose not to go for 0.94.6 at this point in time, too fresh off the
boat for my taste.

Phasing in the cache tier literally caused 10 Minutes of Terror (tm
pending), including the first ever "wrongly marked down" OSDs I've seen in
production. 
However after the 8000 hottest objects had been promoted, it stabilized
quickly. 
After 3 days we're now at 84k objects in the cache pool, 13% of its
capacity. 
Of those I'd consider about 50k to be hot or warm, the rest are from VM
installs and reboot and thus mostly cold.

Activity on the base pool (promotions) is nearly 0, so I'm taking this
golden opportunity to finally add the new HDD based storage node and its
OSDs. ^o^

Regards,

Christian

On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 22:44:47 -0700 Robert LeBlanc wrote:

> We have not seen this issue, but we don't run EC pools yet (we are
> waiting for multiple layers to be available). We are not running 0.94.6
> in production yet either. We have adopted the policy to only run released
> versions in production unless there is a really pressing need to have a
> patch. We are running 0.94.6 through our alpha and staging clusters and
> hoping to do the upgrade in the next couple of weeks. We won't know how
> much the recency fix will help until then because we have not been able
> to replicate our workload with fio accurately enough to get good test
> results. Unfortunately we will probably be swapping out our M600s with
> S3610s. We've burned through 30% of the life in 2 months and they have
> 8x the op latency. Due to the 10 Minutes of Terror, we are going to have
> to do both at the same time to reduce the impact. Luckily, when you have
> weighted out OSDs or empty ones, it is much less impactful. If you get
> your upgrade done before ours, I'd like to know how it went. I'll be
> posting the results from ours when it is done.
> 
> Sent from a mobile device, please excuse any typos.
> On Feb 24, 2016 5:43 PM, "Christian Balzer" <chibi@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> >
> > Hello Jason (Ceph devs et al),
> >
> > On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 13:15:34 -0500 (EST) Jason Dillaman wrote:
> >
> > > If you run "rados -p <cache pool> ls | grep "rbd_id.<yyy-disk1>" and
> > > don't see that object, you are experiencing that issue [1].
> > >
> > > You can attempt to work around this issue by running "rados -p
> > > irfu-virt setomapval rbd_id.<yyy-disk1> dummy value" to
> > > force-promote the object to the cache pool.  I haven't tested /
> > > verified that will alleviate the issue, though.
> > >
> > > [1] http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/14762
> > >
> >
> > This concerns me greatly, as I'm about to phase in a cache tier this
> > weekend into a very busy, VERY mission critical Ceph cluster.
> > That is on top of a replicated pool, Hammer.
> >
> > That issue and the related git blurb are less than crystal clear, so
> > for my and everybody else's benefit could you elaborate a bit more on
> > this?
> >
> > 1. Does this only affect EC base pools?
> > 2. Is this a regressions of sorts and when came it about?
> >    I have a hard time imagining people not running into this earlier,
> >    unless that problem is very hard to trigger.
> > 3. One assumes that this isn't fixed in any released version of Ceph,
> >    correct?
> >
> > Robert, sorry for CC'ing you, but AFAICT your cluster is about the
> > closest approximation in terms of busyness to mine here.
> > And I a assume that you're neither using EC pools (since you need
> > performance, not space) and haven't experienced this bug all?
> >
> > Also, would you consider the benefits of the recency fix (thanks for
> > that) being worth risk of being an early adopter of 0.94.6?
> > In other words, are you eating your own dog food already and 0.94.6
> > hasn't eaten your data babies yet? ^o^
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Christian
> > --
> > Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer
> > chibi@xxxxxxx           Global OnLine Japan/Rakuten Communications
> > http://www.gol.com/
> >


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Christian Balzer        Network/Systems Engineer                
chibi@xxxxxxx   	Global OnLine Japan/Rakuten Communications
http://www.gol.com/
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