In order to be fast, the 'rbd du' command counts the existence of any data object as fully used on disk. Therefore, if you have a 4MB object size, writing 1 byte to two objects would result in 'rbd du' reporting 8MB in-use. You can simulate the same result via 'rbd diff': rbd diff --whole-object <IMAGE-SPEC> | awk '{ SUM += $2 } END { print SUM/1024/1024 " MB" }' (should be similar to rbd du output -- let me know if it's not) -- vs -- rbd diff <IMAGE-SPEC> | awk '{ SUM += $2 } END { print SUM/1024/1024 " MB" }' (removes sparse space) Another possibility is if you wrote a bunch of zeros to the RBD image, it will no longer be sparsely allocated -- but converting to qcow2 will re-sparsify the resulting image. -- Jason Dillaman ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill WONG" <wongahshuen@xxxxxxxxx> > To: "Jason Dillaman" <dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx> > Cc: "Mihai Gheorghe" <mcapsali@xxxxxxxxx>, "ceph-users" > <ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 12:34:36 PM > Subject: Re: Ceph + Libvirt + QEMU-KVM > hi jason, > i got it. thank you! > i have a questions about the thin provisioning, suppose Ceph should be using > thin provisioning by default, but how come the rbd du command show the disk > usage is almost 19G for a 20G allocation, as when i use the expert to a .img > from ceph to external local disk, it's about 4G image only, and the OS > actually is about 1-2G if provisioned via local disk by using qcow2 format. > any comments or ideas? > thank you! > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 11:51 PM, Jason Dillaman < dillaman@xxxxxxxxxx > > wrote: > > The way to interpret that output is that the HEAD revision of "CentOS3" has > > about a 700MB delta from the previous snapshot (i.e. 700MB + 18G are used > > by > > this image and its snapshot). There probably should be an option in the rbd > > CLI to generate the full usage for a particular image and all of its > > snapshots. Right now the only way to do that is to perform a du on the > > whole > > pool. > > > -- > > > Jason Dillaman > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Bill WONG" < wongahshuen@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > To: "Mihai Gheorghe" < mcapsali@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > Cc: "ceph-users" < ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 6:17:05 AM > > > > Subject: Re: Ceph + Libvirt + QEMU-KVM > > > > Hi Mihai, > > > > it looks rather strange in ceph snapshot, the size of snapshot is bigger > > > than > > > > the size of original images.. > > > > Original Image actual used size is 684M w/ provisioned 20G > > > > but the snapshot actual used size is ~18G w/ provisioned 20G > > > > any ideas? > > > > == > > > > [root@compute2 ~]# rbd du CentOS3 -p storage1 > > > > warning: fast-diff map is not enabled for CentOS3. operation may be slow. > > > > NAME PROVISIONED USED > > > > CentOS3 20480M 684M > > > > [root@compute2 ~]# rbd du CentOS3@snap1 -p storage1 > > > > warning: fast-diff map is not enabled for CentOS3. operation may be slow. > > > > NAME PROVISIONED USED > > > > CentOS3@snap1 20480M 18124M > > > > == > > > > qemu-img info rbd:storage1/CentOS3 > > > > image: rbd:storage1/CentOS3 > > > > file format: raw > > > > virtual size: 20G (21474836480 bytes) > > > > disk size: unavailable > > > > cluster_size: 4194304 > > > > Snapshot list: > > > > ID TAG VM SIZE DATE VM CLOCK > > > > snap1 snap1 20G 1970-01-01 08:00:00 00:00:00.000 > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Mihai Gheorghe < mcapsali@xxxxxxxxx > > > > wrote: > > > > > As far as i know, snapshotting with qemu will download a copy of the > > > > image > > > > > on > > > > > local storage and then upload it into ceph. At least this is the > > > > default > > > > > behaviour when taking a snapshot in openstack of a running instance. I > > > > > don't > > > > > see why it would be any different with qemu-kvm. You must use the rbd > > > > snap > > > > > feature to make a copy on write clone of the image. > > > > > > > > > On 28 Jan 2016 12:59, "Bill WONG" < wongahshuen@xxxxxxxxx > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Simon, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > how you manage to preform snapshot with the raw format in qemu-kvm > > > > > VMs? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and i found some issues with libvirt virsh commands with ceph: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) create storage pool with ceph via virsh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) create a vol via virsh - virsh vol-create-as rbdpool VM1 100G > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > problem is here.. if we directly create vol via qemu-img create -f > > > > > rbd > > > > > > rbd:rbdpool/VM1 100G, then virsh is unable to find the vol. - virsh > > > > > > vol-list > > > > > > rbdpool command is unable to list the vol, it looks such commands - > > > > > rbd, > > > > > > virsh and qemu-img creating images are not synced with each other... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > cloud you please let me know how you use the ceph as backend storage > > > > > of > > > > > > qemu-kvm, as if i google it, most of the ceph application is used for > > > > > > OpenStack, but not simply pure qemu-kvm. as if setting up Glnace and > > > > > > Cinder > > > > > > is troublesome... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 5:23 PM, Simon Ironside < > > > > > sironside@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 28/01/16 08:30, Bill WONG wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > without having qcow2, the qemu-kvm cannot make snapshot and other > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > features.... anyone have ideas or experiences on this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm using raw too and create snapshots using "rbd snap create" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Simon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceph-users mailing list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ceph-users mailing list > > > > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com