Re: Intel S3710 400GB and Samsung PM863 480GB fio results

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Hi all,


On 12/22/2015 01:55 PM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
> On 22-12-15 13:43, Andrei Mikhailovsky wrote:
>> Hello guys,
>>
>> Was wondering if anyone has done testing on Samsung PM863 120 GB version to see how it performs? IMHO the 480GB version seems like a waste for the journal as you only need to have a small disk size to fit 3-4 osd journals. Unless you get a far greater durability.
>>
> In that case I would look at the SM836 from Samsung. They are sold as
> write-intensive SSDs.
>
> Wido
>


Today I received a small batch of SM863 (1.9TBs) disks. So maybe these
testresults are helpfull for making a decision
This is on an IBM X3550M4 with a MegaRaid SAS card (so not in jbod
mode). Unfortunally I have no suitable JBOD card available at my test
server so I'm stuck with the "RAID" layer in the HBA



disabled drive cache, disabled controller cache
---------------------------------------------------------------


1 job
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=906536KB, aggrb=15108KB/s, minb=15108KB/s, maxb=15108KB/s,
mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=91/452978, merge=0/0, ticks=12/39032, in_queue=39016, util=65.04%


5 Jobs
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=6078.2MB, aggrb=103731KB/s, minb=103731KB/s,
maxb=103731KB/s, mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=179/3108541, merge=0/61, ticks=24/202796, in_queue=200900,
util=99.81%

10 Jobs
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=9437.5MB, aggrb=161057KB/s, minb=161057KB/s,
maxb=161057KB/s, mint=60003msec, maxt=60003msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=175/4827612, merge=0/228, ticks=24/452648, in_queue=451548,
util=100.00%



Enabled drive cache, disabled controller cache:
---------------------------------------------------------------


1 job
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=1837.5MB, aggrb=31358KB/s, minb=31358KB/s, maxb=31358KB/s,
mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=91/940283, merge=0/0, ticks=4/40200, in_queue=40188, util=66.99%


5 jobs
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=6024.3MB, aggrb=102812KB/s, minb=102812KB/s,
maxb=102812KB/s, mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=179/3080690, merge=0/65, ticks=24/202100, in_queue=200364,
util=99.81%



10 jobs
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=9524.2MB, aggrb=162536KB/s, minb=162536KB/s,
maxb=162536KB/s, mint=60003msec, maxt=60003msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=164/4869333, merge=0/381, ticks=16/446660, in_queue=446080,
util=100.00%


Enabled drive cache, enabled controller cache:
---------------------------------------------------------------


1 job
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=1739.9MB, aggrb=29693KB/s, minb=29693KB/s, maxb=29693KB/s,
mint=60000msec, maxt=60000msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=91/890287, merge=0/0, ticks=8/40096, in_queue=40044, util=66.75%


10 jobs
-----------
Run status group 0 (all jobs):
  WRITE: io=9056.1MB, aggrb=154554KB/s, minb=154554KB/s,
maxb=154554KB/s, mint=60001msec, maxt=60001msec

Disk stats (read/write):
  sdd: ios=176/4630400, merge=0/312, ticks=24/454824, in_queue=453900,
util=100.00%


The dd way (with caches enabled)
-------------------
# dd if=randfile of=/dev/sdd bs=4k count=1000000 oflag=direct,dsync
262144+0 records in
262144+0 records out
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 36.7559 s, 29.2 MB/s
so thats about ~7K IOPS (single job of course)


So this drive in this configuration is maxing out at about ~160 MB/s @
39K IOPS , raising the blocksize from 4K to 32K raises throughput but
lowers IOPS
Amount of IOPS sounds reasonable for this quoted specs. Please note,
this is a brand new disk, so probably IOPS will slow down a bit over time.


Regards,


Mart


>> I am planning to replace my current journal ssds over the next month or so and would like to find out if there is an a good alternative to the Intel's 3700/3500 series. 
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Andrei
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Wido den Hollander" <wido@xxxxxxxx>
>>> To: "ceph-users" <ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Monday, 21 December, 2015 19:12:33
>>> Subject: Re:  Intel S3710 400GB and Samsung PM863 480GB fio results
>>> On 12/21/2015 05:30 PM, Lionel Bouton wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sébastien Han just added the test results I reported for these SSDs on
>>>> the following page :
>>>>
>>>> http://www.sebastien-han.fr/blog/2014/10/10/ceph-how-to-test-if-your-ssd-is-suitable-as-a-journal-device/
>>>>
>>>> The table in the original post has the most important numbers and more
>>>> details can be found in the comments.
>>>>
>>>> To sum things up, both have good performance (this isn't surprising for
>>>> the S3710 but AFAIK this had to be confirmed for the PM863 and my
>>>> company just purchased 2 of them just for these tests because they are
>>>> the only "DC" SSDs available at one of our hosting providers).
>>>> PM863 models are not designed for write-intensive applications and we
>>>> have yet to see how they behave in the long run (in our case where PM863
>>>> endurance is a bit short, if I had a choice we would test SM863 models
>>>> if they were available to us).
>>>>
>>>> So at least for the PM863 please remember that this report is just about
>>>> the performance side (on fresh SSDs) which arguably is excellent for the
>>>> price but this doesn't address other conditions to check (performance
>>>> consistency over the long run, real-world write endurance including
>>>> write amplification, large scale testing to detect potential firmware
>>>> bugs, ...).
>>>>
>>> Interesting! I might be able to gain access to some PM836 3,84TB SSDs
>>> later this week.
>>>
>>> I'll run the same tests if I can. Interesting to see how they perform.
>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Lionel
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