Hello, On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 15:57:36 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote: > to update this, the error looks like it comes from updatedb scanning the > ceph disks. > > When we make sure it doesn’t, by putting the ceph mount points in the > exclusion file, the problem goes away. > Ah, I didn't even think about this, as I have been disabling updatedb or excluding data trees for years now. It's probably something that would a good addition to the documentation. Also with atop you would have immediately seen who the culprit was. Regard, Christian > Thanks for the help and time. > On 30 Nov 2015, at 09:53, MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) > <bryn.mathias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bryn.mathias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > wrote: > > > On 30 Nov 2015, at 14:37, MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) > <bryn.mathias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:bryn.mathias@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> > wrote: > > Hi, > On 30 Nov 2015, at 13:44, Christian Balzer > <chibi@xxxxxxx<mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > Hello, > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:55:24 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote: > > Hi Christian, > > I’ll give you a much better dump of detail :) > > Running RHEL 7.1, > ceph version 0.94.5 > > all ceph disks are xfs, with journals on a partition on the disk > Disks: 6Tb spinners. > > OK, I was guessing that journal on disk, but good to know. > Which exact model? > Some of them are rather unsuited for Ceph usage (SMR). > I don’t know the exact model of the disks but they are not SMR disks. > > Erasure coded pool with 4+1 EC ISA-L also. > > OK, this is where I plead ignorance, no EC experience at all. > But it would be strange for this to be hitting a single disk at a time. > It is hitting a single disk in each node, however I’d have thought that > I’d see repetition over the disks if it were doing this on a per > placement group basis. > > No scrubbing reported in the ceph log, the cluster isn’t old enough yet > to be doing any deep scrubbing. Also the cpu usage of the osd deamon > that controls the disk isn’t spiking which I have seen previously when > scrubbing or deep scrubbing is taking place. > > Alright, can you confirm (with atop or the likes) that the busy disk is > actually being written/read to by the OSD process in question and if > there is a corresponding network traffic for the amount of I/O? > I checked for network traffic, there didn’t look to be any. > Looks like the problem is transient and has disappeared for the moment. > I will post more when I see the problem again. > > Bryn > > Christian > > > All disks are at 2% utilisation as given by df. > > For explicitness: > [root@au-sydney ~]# ceph -s > cluster ff900f17-7eec-4fe1-8f31-657d44b86a22 > health HEALTH_OK > monmap e5: 5 mons at > {au-adelaide=10.50.21.24:6789/0,au-brisbane=10.50.21.22:6789/0,au-canberra=10.50.21.23:6789/0,au-melbourne=10.50.21.21:6789/0,au-sydney=10.50.21.20:6789/0} > election epoch 274, quorum 0,1,2,3,4 > au-sydney,au-melbourne,au-brisbane,au-canberra,au-adelaide osdmap e8549: > 120 osds: 120 up, 120 in pgmap v408422: 8192 pgs, 2 pools, 7794 GB data, > 5647 kobjects 9891 GB used, 644 TB / 654 TB avail 8192 active+clean > client io 68363 kB/s wr, 1249 op/s > > > Cheers, > Bryn > > > On 30 Nov 2015, at 12:57, Christian Balzer > <chibi@xxxxxxx<mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx><mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx>> wrote: > > > Hello, > > On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 07:15:35 +0000 MATHIAS, Bryn (Bryn) wrote: > > Hi All, > > I am seeing an issue with ceph performance. > Starting from an empty cluster of 5 nodes, ~600Tb of storage. > > It would be helpful to have more details (all details in fact) than this. > Complete HW, OS, FS used, Ceph versions and configuration details > (journals on HDD, replication levels etc). > > While this might not seem significant to your current question, it might > prove valuable as to why you're seeing performance problems and how to > address them. > > monitoring disk usage in nmon I see rolling 100% usage of a disk. > Ceph -w doesn’t report any spikes in throughput and the application > putting data is not spiking in the load generated. > > > The ceph.log should give a more detailed account, but assuming your > client side is indeed steady state, this could be very well explained by > scrubbing, especially deep-scrubbing. > That should also be visible in the ceph.log. > > Christian > > │sdg2 0% 0.0 537.5| > | > │ │sdh 2% 4.0 > 4439.8|RW > │ > │sdh1 2% 4.0 > 3972.3|RW > │ > │sdh2 0% 0.0 467.6| > | > │ │sdj 3% 2.0 > 3524.7|RW > │ > │sdj1 3% 2.0 > 3488.7|RW > │ > │sdj2 0% 0.0 36.0| > | > │ │sdk 99% 1144.9 > 3564.6|RRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> > │ > │sdk1 99% 1144.9 > 3254.9|RRRRRRRRRRRRRWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW> > │ │sdk2 0% 0.0 309.7|W > | > │ │sdl 1% 4.0 955.1|R > | > │ │sdl1 1% 4.0 791.3|R > | > │ > │sdl2 0% 0.0 163.8| > | > > > Is this anything to do with the way objects are stored on the file > system? I remember reading that as the number of objects grow the files > on disk are re-orginised? > > This issue for obvious reasons causes a large degradation in > performance, is there a way of mitigating it? Will this go away as my > cluster reaches a higher level of disk utilisation? > > > Kind Regards, > Bryn Mathias > > _______________________________________________ > ceph-users mailing list > ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><mailto:ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com > > > -- > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer > chibi@xxxxxxx<mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx> Global OnLine Japan/Fusion > Communications http://www.gol.com/ > > > > -- > Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer > chibi@xxxxxxx<mailto:chibi@xxxxxxx> Global OnLine Japan/Fusion > Communications http://www.gol.com/ > > -- Christian Balzer Network/Systems Engineer chibi@xxxxxxx Global OnLine Japan/Fusion Communications http://www.gol.com/ _______________________________________________ ceph-users mailing list ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.ceph.com/listinfo.cgi/ceph-users-ceph.com