Re: ceph-deploy & state of documentation [was: OSD & JOURNAL not associated - ceph-disk list ?]

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I get the impression that more people on the ML are using a config management system.  ceph-deploy questions seem to come from new users following the quick start guide.

I know both Puppet and Chef are fairly well represented here.  I've seen a few posts about Salt and Ansible, but not much.  Calamari is built on top of Salt, so I suppose that means Salt is well represented.  I really haven't seen anything from the CFEngine or Bcfg2 camps.


I'm personally using Chef with a private fork of the Ceph cookbook.  The Ceph cookbook doesn't use ceph-deploy, but it does use ceph-disk.  Whenever I have problems with the ceph-disk command, I first go look at the cookbook to see how it's doing things.



On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Nico Schottelius <nico-ceph-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hello list,

I am a bit wondering about "ceph-deploy" and the development of ceph: I
see that many people in the community are pushing towards the use of
ceph-deploy, likely to ease use of ceph.

However, I have run multiple times into issues using ceph-deploy, when
it failed or incorrectly setup partitions or created a cluster of
monitors that never reach a qurom.

I have also recognised debugging and learning of ceph being much more
difficult with ceph-deploy, compared to going the manual way, because as
a user I miss a lot of information.

Furthermore as the maintainer of a configuration management system [0],
I am interested in knowing how things are working behind the scenes to
be able to automate them.

Thus I was wondering, if it is an option for the ceph community to
focus on both (the manual & ceph-deploy) way instead of just pushing
ceph-deploy?

Cheers,

Nico

p.s.: Loic, just taking your mail as an example, but it is not personal
- just want to show my point.

Loic Dachary [Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 06:08:27PM +0100]:
> [...]
>
> Is there a reason why you need to do this instead of letting ceph-disk prepare do it for you ?
>
> [...]

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