anti-cephalopod question

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On Mon, 28 Jul 2014 11:22:38 +0100 Joao Eduardo Luis wrote:

> On 07/28/2014 08:49 AM, Christian Balzer wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > On Sun, 27 Jul 2014 18:20:43 -0400 Robert Fantini wrote:
> >
> >> Hello Christian,
> >>
> >> Let me supply more info and answer some questions.
> >>
> >> * Our main concern is high availability, not speed.
> >> Our storage requirements are not huge.
> >> However we want good keyboard response 99.99% of the time.   We
> >> mostly do data entry and reporting.   20-25  users doing mostly
> >> order , invoice processing and email.
> >>
> >> * DRBD has been very reliable , but I am the SPOF .   Meaning that
> >> when split brain occurs [ every 18-24 months ] it is me or no one who
> >> knows what to do. Try to explain how to deal with split brain in
> >> advance.... For the future ceph looks like it will be easier to
> >> maintain.
> >>
> > The DRBD people would of course tell you to configure things in a way
> > that a split brain can't happen. ^o^
> >
> > Note that given the right circumstances (too many OSDs down, MONs down)
> > Ceph can wind up in a similar state.
> 
> 
> I am not sure what you mean by ceph winding up in a similar state.  If 
> you mean regarding 'split brain' in the usual sense of the term, it does 
> not occur in Ceph.  If it does, you have surely found a bug and you 
> should let us know with lots of CAPS.
> 
> What you can incur though if you have too many monitors down is cluster 
> downtime.  The monitors will ensure you need a strict majority of 
> monitors up in order to operate the cluster, and will not serve requests 
> if said majority is not in place.  The monitors will only serve requests 
> when there's a formed 'quorum', and a quorum is only formed by (N/2)+1 
> monitors, N being the total number of monitors in the cluster (via the 
> monitor map -- monmap).
> 
> This said, if out of 3 monitors you have 2 monitors down, your cluster 
> will cease functioning (no admin commands, no writes or reads served). 
> As there is no configuration in which you can have two strict 
> majorities, thus no two partitions of the cluster are able to function 
> at the same time, you do not incur in split brain.
> 
I wrote similar state, not "same state".


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