Re: RGW/ServiceMap etc

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On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 1:23 AM, Matt Benjamin <mbenjami@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Sage,
>
> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:44 PM, Sage Weil <sweil@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> I suspect there are some headaches with regard to the current structure of
>> radosgw-admin code that make wrapping it up in a library with python
>> bindings a painful exercise, but that doesn't mean it isn't worth the
>> effort for just the realm management pieces?
>>
>> sage
>
> I see those concerns as more serious then mere headaches in the short
> to medium run.  The issue is not how quickly wrappers can be
> developed, but how robust and serviceable long-running ceph-mgr
> daemons that have loaded an RGW instance in-process will be over the
> life of deployed L and M clusters, relative to some other organization
> of the same code.

Can we flesh out what "some other organisation of the same code" might be?

I think what I'm hearing from you and Casey is that you're comfortable
with all the pre-admin-api bootstrapping activities being done by
wrapping the radosgw-admin CLI (whether directly or via an
intermediate ansible layer).  I'm not sure if that's your preferred
approach, or if you're just saying that creating a non-cli interface
for these bits shouldn't be a priority because the CLI works as an
interim solution?

John

> It's not as if I'm not a strong advocate for in-process organization
> in general, there already is a librgw that does NFS, and in the longer
> run, I'd like to see more integration along those lines (e.g., as we
> had at Cohort with pNFS data servers and OSDs).  I think python
> bindings for RGW RADOS is a lot different, though, and I'm not sold
> yet that we really have to, to give the dashboard everything it
> aspires to.
>
> Is that crazy talk?
>
> Matt
>
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