On Thu, 29 Jun 2017, John Spray wrote: > On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:04 PM, Sage Weil <sage@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > There is some goofy behavior with the systemd unit files that tries to > > make a new ceph-mgr daemon automagically appear next to the mons during a > > cluster upgrade: > > > > - The ceph-mon@.service triggers ceph-mgr@ to start > > - The ceph-mgr@.service tries to create a ceph-mgr key using whatever > > mon key it can find > > > > This was intended to ease the upgrade path by auto-creating ceph-mgr > > daemons along the way. > > > > Do we really want this? I was reminded this behavior is here because of > > #19994, which points out that this isn't implemented for upstart (still > > used by trusty 14.04). > > I was thinking of it as a temporary thing for Kraken, because mgr > didn't really do anything so it seemed unreasonable to make people > jump through manual hoops at the time, and the tools support wasn't > there. > > For luminous I'm kind of ambivalent about whether to remove it in the > name of cleanliness or leave it in in the name of convenience. I lean toward cleanliness and transparency. Major upgrades are a rare opportunity have the admin's full attention; let's take advantage of it. https://github.com/ceph/ceph/pull/16023 sage -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe ceph-devel" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html