Re: [Ceph-qa] ceph-qa-suite branching (merge it into ceph.git?)

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We need to do that anyway to make it easier to test ceph-qa-suite branches imho.
-Sam

On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Josh Durgin <jdurgin@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 04/13/2016 11:38 AM, Sage Weil wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 13 Apr 2016, Samuel Just wrote:
>>>
>>> It also doesn't seem like it would actually present a problem in any
>>> case.
>>
>>
>> The reason we didn't do this before was because we wanted to revise tests
>> independently of the thing being tested.  But as John points out,
>> specifying a test branch should accomplish that, at least for testing.
>>
>> It might be nice to preserve the ability specify an alternate repo with
>> totally out-of-tree tests.  Maybe that can be done with a simple reorg of
>> the repo, like putting everything under qa/, so that tasks/ and suites/
>> don't appear at the top level (of ceph.git or ceph-qa-suite.git).
>
>
> It'll also be quite helpful to specify an alternate repo (not just
> branch) for testing suite changes without pushing to the main ceph.git
> and triggering gitbuilder builds.
>
> Josh
>
>
>> sage
>>
>>
>>
>>> -Sam
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 11:31 AM, John Spray <jspray@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 2:58 PM, Gregory Farnum <gfarnum@xxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 6:23 AM, Loic Dachary <loic@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 : I agree it would be a good thing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason why it would help to merge ceph-qa-suite in ceph is because
>>>>>> we have no proper methods or tools to work with interdependent repositories.
>>>>>> The problem is not unique to Ceph: every Free Software developer end up bug
>>>>>> fixing and adding features to dependencies (ceph-qa-suite in the case of
>>>>>> Ceph but also jerasure, rocksdb, s3test etc.). It will take a long time to
>>>>>> resolve that more general problem and I don't know about an effort in that
>>>>>> direction. Do you ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 13/04/2016 12:52, John Spray wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lately, we've instances where ceph.git and ceph-qa-suite.git got
>>>>>>> slightly out of sync, as we were adding new stuff and interface
>>>>>>> changes to ceph (especially in cephfs).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We used to have two repos (ceph and teuthology), now we have three
>>>>>>> (ceph, ceph-qa-suite and teuthology).  Splitting tests out of
>>>>>>> teuthology was a good thing, but maybe they should have gone into the
>>>>>>> ceph tree instead of a new repo?  The ceph-qa-suite branching seems
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> pretty much mirror what we do with ceph, with master vs jewel etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Historically we had a comparatively static set of workloads in the qa
>>>>>>> suite (e.g. kernel-untar-build, fsstresss, pjd), which didn't change
>>>>>>> much with ceph changes.  But these days we're adding much more
>>>>>>> detailed tests, so there's more effort to keep the two in sync.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would personally love to be able to have a single PR that contained
>>>>>>> my code and the tests for it.  What if after Jewel we pulled all of
>>>>>>> ceph-qa-suite into the ceph repo?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We could still enable folks running test changes without having to
>>>>>>> rebuild ceph packages: the suite sha1 selected when running a
>>>>>>> teuthology suite could still be different from that used for
>>>>>>> installing ceph, it's just that it would fetch that sha1 from the
>>>>>>> ceph
>>>>>>> repo instead of from a separate repo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We do have qa-suite tests that don't necessarily make a lot of sense
>>>>> to have in ceph.git. Samba, kernel NFS, ganesha some day. That doesn't
>>>>> mean we shouldn't merge them, but it popped into my head.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Fair point.  I think that because those other tasks depend in turn on
>>>> the ceph tasks, we still ultimately benefit from having them in one
>>>> place.
>>>>
>>>> It's also possible that in the long run things like the samba tests
>>>> become a bit more "smart" in a way that's more tightly coupled to
>>>> ceph, e.g. checking the resulting state inside ceph after doing things
>>>> in the samba/ganesha layer, at which point we'd enjoy having them in
>>>> the same place as the main body of test code.
>>>>
>>>> John
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