Re: The fundamental evil of "magic" in computing systems -> Was: mon daemon makes authentication side effects on startup

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On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Owen Synge wrote:
> On 04/07/2016 04:03 PM, Sage Weil wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Owen Synge wrote:
> >> Hi Sage,
> >>
> >> On 04/07/2016 02:26 PM, Sage Weil wrote:
> >>> Hi Owen,
> >>>
> >>> I never really liked ceph-create-keys either, but it simplified the 
> >>> deployment process.  
> >>
> >> I would propose we do this in two stages.
> >>
> >> (A) Remove calling the command from the init scripts as a side effect of
> >> starting the mon.
> >>
> >> This allows us to get most of the issues solved.
> >>
> >> (B) Remove the command.
> >>
> >> This is the long term goal, which is not as urgent in my opinion but
> >> others may disagree.
> > 
> > Works for me.  We just need to change ceph-deploy and get the other 
> > install/deploy tool folks on board before A.
> 
> Are you intending to get this into Jewel?
> 
> I had assumed this would only be done on master, and only come into the
> next release.

Yeah, too late for jewel.

> As a change to master I felt that we could just do (A) as soon as
> ceph-deploy works without the mon boot up scripts calling
> ceph-create-keys, ideally without having  ceph-create-keys in
> ceph-deploy's process.
> 
> We can then file bugs as needed against other install processes that
> depend on ceph-create-keys, and they can test against master.

That works for me.

sage
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