On May 16, 2008, at 11:14 AM, Carol Anne Ogdin wrote:
Your opinions are louder than your putative experience.
Unfortunately, in
51 years in the computer industry, I've sometimes had to cope with
behaviors
like yours. It still makes me sad to experience such unhappy
people who
think that attack is the best way to enrich a collaboration.
hmm. perhaps we should put some of that 51 years of experience to
use in evaluating this particular situation? while i can't see
inside your head, i can refer to the policies you yourself have
published (http://www.deepwoods.com/transform/pubs/DDB.htm).
The "core" participants can be identified by seeing how many other
people
("core" or not) refer to them by name. The named people are the
"core" group.
Make sure you remain sensitive to their concerns, for they
implicitly speak
for the entire population of participants.
by any definition, Karanbir is one of the core participants of this
forum and of the CentOS project. have you lurked here a while? if
so, i'm surprised you don't know this. on the CentOS website, please
check Information->The CentOS Team->Members and see if some of those
names look familiar. please treat him with the respect he is due.
If the boundaries are not clearly established, differing
expectations will
ensure that somebody feels the boundaries have been crossed. That's
why it's
important to have some published guidelines for behavior.
the CentOS project does, in fact, have such published guidelines for
mailing lists, available here:
http://www.centos.org/modules/tinycontent/index.php?id=16
(that's Support->Mailing Lists off the main page). issues concerning
posting and quoting are covered there, quite unambiguously. please
respect the published guidelines of this forum, *as you yourself
recommend*.
Of course, the newcomer might immediately and inadvertently violate
some
local cultural norms, sort of like walking through the flower bed on
the
way to the front door. In this case, it's usually best to take the
process
of new party education off-line, into e-mail. Chastising people in
public
for not reading the published guidelines, or for doing something
they shouldn't
almost guarantees they'll never participate again.
ok, make up your mind; which do you want to be? are you a "tentative
participant" who doesn't know how to behave and needs to be
acculturated to this forum's norms, or are you a seasoned
professional with 117,000 messages worth of experience in community-
building? if you're the first, please stop telling everyone else how
to behave; if you're the second, please stop making newbie mistakes,
since you should know better.
thank you.
-steve
--
If this were played upon a stage now, I could condemn it as an
improbable fiction. - Fabian, Twelfth Night, III,v
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