On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:35 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
>> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
>> quite arrogant?
>>
>> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
>> several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is
>> free. CentOS Linux 8 is going away in at the end of 2021.
>>
>> Those are facts.
>>
>> He said he wanted free Linux and did not want to interact with the
>> community. I provided all the alternatives that i know for that.
>>
>> Stream, a qualified version of RHEL that can be obtained from Red Hat
>> for free (has nothing to do with CentOS) or some other distribution.
>>
>> I am not being arrogant or negative. Just pointing out facts.
>>
>> I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17
>> more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not
>> going to happen. I know .. I've tried.
>>
>>
> That doesn't sound much like a "community" to me. That's my point.
>
> (And I explicitly did not ask for "free Linux," or even "free RHEL." I
> only asked for what the CentOS web page says, and has said for your 17
> years.)
>
"Since March 2004, CentOS Linux has been a community-supported distribution
derived from sources freely provided to the public by Red Hat. As such,
CentOS Linux aims to be functionally compatible with RHEL."
>
>
> >
>> >> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx>:
>> >>
>> >> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
>> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
>> >>>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
>> >>>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the
>> >>>> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to
>> >>>> just magically happen.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We
>> don't
>> >>> have time for that.
>> >>>
>> >>> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been
>> >>> diverging from this for a while (note the change in version
>> names/numbers)
>> >>> and we DON'T WANT THAT!
>> >>
>> >> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if
>> you
>> >> qualify for it.
>> >>
>> >> Here is how you can convert:
>> >>
>> >> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841
>> >>
>> >> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you
>> >> can just get for free.
>> >>
>> >> Or, you can do something else. It is all up to you.
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