On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 12:29 PM Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 12/8/20 11:19 AM, Marc Balmer via CentOS wrote:
> > Am I the only one to perceive CentOS/RedHat team members responses as
> quite arrogant?
>
> I am sorry you feel that way. I was trying to help. Red Hat has
> several programs where they give away RHEL for free. CentOS Stream is
> free. CentOS Linux 8 is going away in at the end of 2021.
>
> Those are facts.
>
> He said he wanted free Linux and did not want to interact with the
> community. I provided all the alternatives that i know for that.
>
> Stream, a qualified version of RHEL that can be obtained from Red Hat
> for free (has nothing to do with CentOS) or some other distribution.
>
> I am not being arrogant or negative. Just pointing out facts.
>
> I have been doing this for 17 years. I would continue doing for 17
> more. But it is what it is and wishing for it to be different is not
> going to happen. I know .. I've tried.
>
>
That doesn't sound much like a "community" to me. That's my point.
(And I explicitly did not ask for "free Linux," or even "free RHEL." I only
asked for what the CentOS web page says, and has said for your 17 years.)
>
> >> Am 08.12.2020 um 18:11 schrieb Johnny Hughes <johnny@xxxxxxxxxx>:
> >>
> >> On 12/8/20 11:02 AM, Phelps, Matthew wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2020 at 11:59 AM Rich Bowen <rbowen@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/8/20 11:29 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote:
> >>>>> I see a lot of promises that Stream will have better engagement with
> >>>>> the community. Why would we trust these promises?
> >>>>
> >>>> "Better engagement with the community" of course requires that the
> >>>> community step up and engage. Trust isn't something anyone expects to
> >>>> just magically happen.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> The whole point of CentOS was so that we didn't have to "engage." We
> don't
> >>> have time for that.
> >>>
> >>> We just want a stable re-compile of RHEL, as promised. CentOS has been
> >>> diverging from this for a while (note the change in version
> names/numbers)
> >>> and we DON'T WANT THAT!
> >>
> >> Right, you want free RHEL .. so get in touch with Red Hat and see if you
> >> qualify for it.
> >>
> >> Here is how you can convert:
> >>
> >> https://access.redhat.com/articles/2360841
> >>
> >> Or, you can see if Stream can meet your requirements of something you
> >> can just get for free.
> >>
> >> Or, you can do something else. It is all up to you.
>
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