On Tue, 8 Jul 2014 14:34:49 -0500 Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jonathan Billings > <billings@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 08, 2014 at 01:22:54PM -0500, Les Mikesell wrote: > >> And more to the point, /usr isn't supposed t be needed until you > >> are past the point of mounting all filesystems so you can boot from > >> something tiny. Doesn't modprobe need its files earlier than that? > > > > I think that a lot of these objections are addressed here: > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken/ > > Ummm, 'addressed' by pointing out that a whole bunch of the changes > fedora has made break things that are expected to work in unix-like > systems. I fail to see how that helps with the problem. And the text contains several weaknesses. I've personally checked the statement for the 23 dependencies from udev rules to /usr in Fedora 15. Maybe my Fedora 15 was something strange but there was none dependency inside. And for me it's ok to blame the small environment in / for some special udev rules they might exist somewhere. But a solution would be a staged Udev, which would be simple to solve. A small problem, a small solution. The other "arguments" have the same quality. To have a /usr on a central NFS server doesn't seem to be a case for such idiots. The binary size of systemd is now more than 1.1 MB - for a central service which will kill your system if it's not rock solid. For a comparison: an apache web server is less than 500 kB. Best Regards Oli
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