On Tue, Sep 8, 2015 at 7:02 AM, George Dunlap <dunlapg@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > * Apparent lack of testing by the community. About a month after the > C7 "beta", I was about to announce an actual release, when I happened > to discover that HVM guests wouldn't boot -- not under any > configuration. This is really basic core functionality that nobody at > all had tested (or if they had they hadn't complained). This > convinced me that I couldn't rely on community testing, and prompted > me to spend some time writing an automated test suite that would at > least do a basic smoke-test for a number of configurations. I've got > this working for the core xen package, but I was planning on extending > it to libvirt before declaring CentOS 7 "ready". A lot of it is market forces. A lot of people who used to run their own VM's have basically given up, and allow AWS or similar services to do it for them. Learning a few command line tools is often a *lot* faster, and cheaper, than running your own virtualization infrastructure. Heck, I *published* the first public RPM's for Xen, way back in 1997 before it was bought by Citrix, and I don't have the time and hardware in hand to do it anymore! I'm also afraid a lot of us have basically given up on CentOS 7, while the developer community deals with all the multiple OS issues of the systemd reworking of network and init configuration, the-arranged "/bin" versus "/usr/bin" overlap of component locations, and the profound lack of EPEL for CentOS 6 or Fedora published perl and python modules ported to CentOS 7. That's not a CentOS team issue, that's a RHEL issue, but it's profoundly lowering interest in both hypervisors and VM's that are CentOS 7 based. > I would be happy to have help improving the packages. I would be > *very* happy to have help maintaining the Xen4CentOS packages, and I > would be *delighted* if someone wanted to take over maintainership of > the packages entirely. > > FYI I have just finished rebasing things to 4.6-rc2 (there are > packages in virt7-xen-46-candidate now), and am in the process of > switching things over to systemd. And that is one of the parts that is sucking away testing time on a lot of open source or freeware projects. The systemd integration of init scripts, networking tools, and the /bin symlink to /usr/bin have been breaking a *lot* of previously stable components. A lot of us are basically giving CentOS 7 a miss until and unless the rest of the stable server community can catch up with the environment changes. _______________________________________________ CentOS-virt mailing list CentOS-virt@xxxxxxxxxx https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos-virt
