On 10/1/24 19:40, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: > On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 10:34 AM Alexei Starovoitov > <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 10:04 AM Andrii Nakryiko >> <andrii.nakryiko@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 7:48 AM Alexei Starovoitov >>> <alexei.starovoitov@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 1, 2024 at 4:26 AM Eduard Zingerman <eddyz87@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, 2024-09-30 at 15:00 -0700, Andrii Nakryiko wrote: >>>>> >>>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>>> Right now, the only way to pass dynamically sized anything is through >>>>>> dynptr, AFAIU. >>>>> >>>>> But we do have 'is_kfunc_arg_mem_size()' that checks for __sz suffix, >>>>> e.g. used for bpf_copy_from_user_str(): >>>>> >>>>> /** >>>>> * bpf_copy_from_user_str() - Copy a string from an unsafe user address >>>>> * @dst: Destination address, in kernel space. This buffer must be >>>>> * at least @dst__sz bytes long. >>>>> * @dst__sz: Maximum number of bytes to copy, includes the trailing NUL. >>>>> * ... >>>>> */ >>>>> __bpf_kfunc int bpf_copy_from_user_str(void *dst, u32 dst__sz, const void __user *unsafe_ptr__ign, u64 flags) >>>>> >>>>> However, this suffix won't work for strnstr because of the arguments order. >>>> >>>> Stating the obvious... we don't need to keep the order exactly the same. >>>> >>>> Regarding all of these kfuncs... as Andrii pointed out 'const char *s' >>>> means that the verifier will check that 's' points to a valid byte. >>>> I think we can do a hybrid static + dynamic safety scheme here. >>>> All of the kfunc signatures can stay the same, but we'd have to >>>> open code all string helpers with __get_kernel_nofault() instead of >>>> direct memory access. >>>> Since the first byte is guaranteed to be valid by the verifier >>>> we only need to make sure that the s+N bytes won't cause page faults >>> >>> You mean to just check that s[N-1] can be read? Given a large enough >>> N, couldn't it be that some page between s[0] and s[N-1] still can be >>> unmapped, defeating this check? >> >> Just checking s[0] and s[N-1] is not enough, obviously, and especially, >> since the logic won't know where nul byte is, so N is unknown. >> I meant to that all of str* kfuncs will be reading all bytes >> via __get_kernel_nofault() until they find \0. > > Ah, ok, I see what you mean now. > >> It can be optimized to 8 byte access. >> The open coding (aka copy-paste) is unfortunate, of course. > > Yep, this sucks. Yeah, that's quite annoying. I really wanted to avoid doing that. Also, we won't be able to use arch-optimized versions of the functions. Just to make sure I understand things correctly - can we do what Eduard suggested and add explicit sizes for all arguments using the __sz suffix? So something like: const char *bpf_strnstr(const char *s1, u32 s1__sz, const char *s2, u32 s2__sz); Or that would still not be sufficient b/c the strings may still be unsafe and we need an additional safety check (using __get_kernel_nofault suggested by Alexei)?