Hello,
Gmail via thunderbird works fine and has done so for a while now. 2
factor authentication, at least via security keys, broke in thunderbird
115.0. It asks you to install an extension, and the link to said
extension gives a 404. How this stuff gets past testing and QA I'll
never know. For the average user though, it just works. You enter your
google account info in the popup that appears, allow Thunderbird to
access your account, and it just works without any additional configuration.
Harley
On 21/11/2023 04:21, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Oh I imagine it is..but I am not a programmer.
Part of my professional life gets spent trying to configure Alpine,
which dreamhost provides the company for whom I work.
I end up with rhs timeouts to the imap server, and lost emails, and
closing inboxes, and clutter over and over again.
If I am forthright, I would pay gmail for the right to keep using
basic html, or someone else to configure this mess so I can get back
to work and contact with the scores of resources who use this gmail
address.
May be one reason why I am unsure I would personally use Linux as my
only operating system, even if I could.
its wonderful magical clay to be sure, but I prefer just buying the
cup so I can get a drink lol.
Given what I have been reading on the Debian list about what
challenges folks there encounter getting gmail to work with imap, even
using Thunderbird?
I respect the gifts others have for scripting and the like, but my
talents lie elsewhere.
Kare
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Henry Yen wrote:
yes, handy for testing. to use as a full-fledged email client, some
configuration is necessary, though really not any more than any other
client
(outgoing SMTP server, accounts/identities, etc.). mutt is very
powerful,
with the ability to run macros/scripts at lots of important junctures.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 10:01:57AM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi,
Thanks for these details.
What does the "handy" read only flag provide?
My goal is to access this account fully, not simply to read email,
although as a test it should be handy.
Unless it has changed, the code would indeed come to the alternative
address google has on file, instead of to a sell phone..but it has been
about a year.
Thanks,
Karen
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Henry Yen wrote:
according to google, you will have to use "app password" as a password
to your gmail account (to keep your overall google password safe).
to do that, you need to first turn on "2-step verification", then
generate the app password (i think it's in the 2-step-verification
section).
in addition, yes, there's an "enable imap" (and some imap-related
settings) in gmail account settings.
you will have to respond to the code that google sends when first
turning
on 2-step verification. but once you've generated the app password for
gmail-imap, i don't think google will send any codes merely to access
gmail via imap.
most of this is in step 2 and step 3 of the general instructions:
https://support.google.com/a/answer/9003945
two other notes:
1. imap access has to be via ssl-imap.
2. there's a handy "Read Only" flag on mutt, so the command line
should be:
mutt -R -f imaps://username@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 08:09:58AM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi,
so for the following to work.
mutt -f imap://lewellen.kd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Something would have to be turned on in my gmail settings?
I got interrupted system call when I tried.
as shared, testing with another gmail account before tampering
with my
main one.
Karen
On Mon, 20 Nov 2023, Henry Yen wrote:
my reading is that google/gmail will start requiring a more
complicated
method of connecting to gmail server emailboxes in about 9 months.
in the meantime, plain imap access will still work.
mutt can access an emailbox via imap simply enough, like:
mutt -f imap://username@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
my reading also suggests that the ability for an imap client to
connect
to gmail requires a setting in one's gmail account.
On Mon, Nov 20, 2023 at 05:30:59AM -0500, Karen Lewellen wrote:
Hi folks,
I still have direct access to basic html, at least until this
morning.
Google is forcing the issue, a change to standard view, requiring a
captcha to ahem confirm it is me.
I understand some folks use mutt, which is likely installed on
shellworld.
Before I tamper with my main gmail account though, I am
considering a
test, I have a second gmail account I have not reached
independently for
some time.
its set to forward..not solid as I have no access to my actual
inbox.
I am told though that mutt may do the trick, but as I only use
Linux via
shellworld, want a safe test, needing information.
Anyone use mutt that can lend documentation, or a hand?
Thanks,
Kare
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