Re: Slint for beginners?

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Hi Howard,

in console or text mode the screen the whole screen is used to display the
commands typed by the user or the output from the computer in response to these
commands.

These commands are inputs of a program, which can be a shell (interface between
the user and the operating system as a whole) or an application (program written
to execute a specific task)

In a graphical environment the screen is shared by several software components
represented by graphical (most rectangular) areas (called for instance panels,
windows, icons) which the user can access with a mouse or key bindings.

What can be confusing is that the word terminal can designate either a console,
or in a graphical environment a window associated with a shell in which the user
can type commands and get output from the shell itself or an application.

Practically for a blind Linux user a console is accessible with speech through a
screen reader like espeakup, speechd-up or fenrir whereas in a graphical
environment the Orca application is used, which can also say what is typed and
the output but also describe the content of a window.

As an illustration you may want to read:
https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_the_graphical_environments

and consult some definitions in the associated glossary:
https://slint.fr/en/HandBook.html#_glossary

Cheers,
Didier Spaier
Slint maintainer
dideratslintdotfr

Le 13/07/2023 à 21:08, Linux for blind general discussion a écrit :
> Back in the end of DOS days, I used a menuing program.  One could arrow to an
> item or type its initial character and it would call a DOS executable.  There
> was even a program such as this included with the last couple versions of DOS. 
> So would I say I was working in console mode?  Or maybe console mode is when you
> are commanding the operating system directly?  Then, how does console mode
> differ from terminal mode?  Or is that a whole other thing?
> 
> Howard
> 
> On 7/13/2023 11:02 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> In many cases, this means you operate on the command line not in a
>> graphical environment.  The console or command line mode really is where
>> all of the linux power tools become available and whenever the graphical
>> interface environment does anything useful it has to reach into the
>> command line environment to get it done.
>>
>>
>> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
>> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
>> order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Jul 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>
>>> It's always been a puzzle to me:  What is meant by console or console mode?
>>> I've heard that term for many years; just never knew what it was or is?
>>> Thanks for any explanation or description.
>>>
>>> Howard
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/13/2023 10:37 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>> Yes, I think slint would be a good distribution for you as a beginner if
>>>> you select to start in console mode during the installation.  The reason
>>>> is even with mate and running mate-terminal the speech is less stable than
>>>> with speakup and running in console gets you speakup and other screen
>>>> reader packages that are more stable than orca.  If you decide to go with
>>>> slint, please do yourself a favor and subscribe to the slint email list.
>>>> That's on freelists.org since that way you'll get operating-specific help
>>>> and you're not the only one using slint with a screen reader on that list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
>>>> defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
>>>> order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, 12 Jul 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good afternoon,
>>>>> I am new to Linux & am currently using Mint 21.1, but keep loosing speech
>>>>> with Orca.
>>>>> As a result, I may switch to Slint, which was recently recommended to me by
>>>>> a friend.
>>>>> Before I do though, I'd like to get opinions from the members of this list
>>>>> as to whether or not this would be a good distribution for me, as a
>>>>> beginner?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Jessica Dail
>>>>>
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