Kyle, I have no idea what's so different about our computers. I wish I knew enough to debug what's going so wrong on mine to cause Orca to crash so frequently. But I can't use Linux in this current situation, so I'll wait a while, and try again, maybe after accessibility fixes happen in Gnome and such. Devin Prater r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 12:09 PM Linux for blind general discussion < blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi all. > I've been using linux at work and at home for at least 12 years. > I certainly encounter accessibility problems as I also encountered when > I was a windows user. > In my opinion, accessibility in linux has improved a lot, even because > there seems to be a greater interest in the community in using linux. > By the way, this message was written and sent from a computer with > fedora workstation version 36 installed. > > On 8/15/22 10:25, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > For me, I still love Linux enough to keep up with the accessibility > stuff, > > and even try it every six months or so. However, the last time I tried > it, > > Orca was so unstable that I managed to crash it by pressing Alt + Tab. > Now, > > this was on an HP Pavilian laptop, but I don't see how any lack of > hardware > > drivers would *only* effect accessibility. I tried Fedora, Ubuntu, and I > > think Mint. All performed the same. Well, Ubuntu lasted a bit longer but > > still, wow. Now, before I get another batch of complain-mail, I'm not > > saying Linux isn't usable for those who don't have demanding jobs with > > oodles of rolls to fill and hats to wear and people to work with. It's > nice > > for home users and simple tasks, and even some development, in Emacs or > > Nano or VIM or whatever. But it's not ready for *me* yet, and the people > > who still develop NVDA addons, apps like Tweesecake and Bookworm, and > > remote desktop solutions, all show, to me at least, that Linux isn't > ready > > for them yet either. I could be wrong. I admit it. But those are my > > opinions, backed up by *my* experiences. > > Devin Prater > > r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 8:12 AM Linux for blind general discussion < > > blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> (from Matt Campbell) > >> > >> Thanks all for the appreciation and memories. But I'm afraid that, at > >> the risk of getting philosophical, the person who created ZipSpeak and > >> trplayer no longer exists. I remember being him, and I still have his > >> name and email address, but I'm no longer him. I've changed so much over > >> the two decades since then. Nothing makes that clearer than Chris's and > >> Karen's concerns about my attitude toward Linux console users and, more > >> generally, people who don't follow the whims of mainstream technology > >> for whatever reason. And those responses have given me something to > >> think about, but I don't yet know what I'll do about it. I said what I > >> wanted to say on the Fedora accessibility article, and maybe I shouldn't > >> have even let myself get pulled into that thread. But I think I'm now > >> philosophically far enough away from many, or even most, in this > >> community that I will probably retreat again from this list and other > >> related lists. > >> > >> Matt > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Blinux-list mailing list > >> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list