Hi Rynhardt, The file ~/.config/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak-ng.conf does not exist on my system. There is no .config folder in my home directory either. Do I have to create all this stuff?! Thanks. Amanda[0] On 1/27/22, Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Greetings! > > > I agree with much of what others have written, but I guess I'll pipe up > a little. > > > I became interested in Linux (or GNU/Linux, as some insist on) for two > reasons, back in the late 1990's. Software freedom was the first. The > second was that it had real text terminals, which I was used to with > DOS. The first reason is vital to my thinking, and the second reason > remains very important, though I use the gui more than the command line > most days. > > > I was a programmer in those days, and I hope to do it again for pay some > day. One of my continuous and troubling tasks was to get the same > access to the mainframe computers I worked on as I'd had using DOS. It > never happened, though I can't say whether it has happened for somebody > else since then. I had to use JAWS during those last years of the job. > Although JAWS scripting helped somewhat, it seemed to me that (1) JAWS > needed more basic customizing to do what I needed and (2) this wasn't > nearly as important to the company as it was to me. I figured that if > JAWS had been free software, meaning free as in freedom rather than free > as in beer, one or more folks who knew more than I did could help me do > the customizing: the code would have been at hand. > > > My Linux journey has been long and often quite rocky. My ignorance > remains vast, partly because of my own inadequacies and partly because I > find documentation often sparse or hard to follow. Even so, I'm much > more able to fix things myself than I can with our Windows machines. > Yes, I use Windows most days, mostly because my wife doesn't want to > abandon it. (She likes the speech output better, and I agree. She also > doubts the wisdom of using software that few if any of the people she > shares documents with are using, a view I think is less warranted.) But > I dare to hope that if I can get her Voxin or something of the sort > working, maybe in time she'll be willing to drop Windows into the abyss. > My reasons are practical as well as principled, but I've written long > enough that I'll leave it at that. > > > Best! > > Al > > > > > On 1/26/22 21:19, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> Okay then, >> This illustrates another point which got touched on in a different >> thread as well. >> The, you must be prepared to do programming if you are going to use >> Linux fluidly, if at all. >> On an entirely different list I am on, folks were complaining about >> windows 10 and windows 11, because of the changes. >> Computers are increasingly such critical parts of our lives, banking >> shopping, even voting, that many on the list spoke of just wanting to >> sit down at their computer and have things work...so they still use >> older editions of things like Windows XP? and Windows 7. >> I admit that is part of why the out of the box concept discussed here >> where Access is concerned seems a bit, speaking personally, like a >> misconception. >> Few on the list I referenced above are using adaptive tools, and some >> of them are scientists, with many not wanting configuring to be a part >> of their computer lives. >> So, why do you use Linux? >> what makes it worth the time the training and the trial / error? >> Oh, and is it your only operating system? >> Want to ask the latter because I know someone who indeed uses Linux >> exclusively, vowing never to touch windows again. >> Please feel free to express in detail, never mind my personal >> situation, because the journalist in me is interested as well. >> Karen >> >> >> >> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >> >>> Fair point. >>> >>> As regards the keyboard, I agree with the main keyboard philosophy, and >>> in fact speakup does allow you to customize it to use the main >>> keyboard instead of the >>> keypad. However, it took me a while to customize it to my liking and >>> required quite a bit of study and generating of personal keymaps, so >>> might not be of any interest to those who aren't comfortable making >>> some low level modifications. >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:16:08PM -0500, Linux for blind general >>> discussion wrote: >>>> Which may illustrate my point. >>>> I can use those without changing what I have now. >>>> Speaking personally if Linux does not provide equal access to both >>>> hardware >>>> and software speech, in both its command line and graphical >>>> platforms, I am >>>> unsure just where the advantage is for me personally. >>>> One thing I personally disliked with speakup, at least the times I >>>> tried it >>>> years back was the need to remove my hands from the keyboard for many >>>> things. >>>> That may not hold true all the way around, but I am a solid typist >>>> and do >>>> not like having to remove may hands, say use the number pad, if I >>>> want as I >>>> work content. >>>> That is me though, which is one magical thing about personal computers. >>>> everyone brings their desires and usage goals to their machines. >>>> Which to my mind again personally means Linux should, if it actually >>>> can, be >>>> flexible enough for all choices to work in it command line and >>>> graphical. >>>> Karen >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don't use Firefox. I use a text based browser, either lynx, w3m, >>>>> or links (the chain) depending. >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:48:42PM -0500, Linux for blind general >>>>> discussion wrote: >>>>>> Rudy, >>>>>> As an example, may I ask what edition of Firefox you are running >>>>>> with that >>>>>> dectalk Express? >>>>>> Karen >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Karen, >>>>>>> I use Linux speakup with a Dectalk express speech synthesizer. >>>>>>> And I believe speakup also handles the >>>>>>> slot card version of dectalk though you'll need a desktop PC that >>>>>>> supports it, so the software is there. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Rudy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 05:22:35PM -0500, Linux for blind general >>>>>>> discussion wrote: >>>>>>>> Kyle, >>>>>>>> i do not consider my hardware decktalk provided via my reading >>>>>>>> edge to be an >>>>>>>> example of text to speech. >>>>>>>> By definition, and there are many, the term, which refers to taking >>>>>>>> information in text format and rendering it aloud does not, >>>>>>>> speaking >>>>>>>> personally, equal pronunciation ease. >>>>>>>> In fact one theory about this has to do with preserving the >>>>>>>> audiobook >>>>>>>> market. >>>>>>>> granted, as was pointed out in a thread some time ago, I am not >>>>>>>> likely to >>>>>>>> learn about Linux screen readers, no driver exists for my >>>>>>>> hardware speech, >>>>>>>> and software synthesizer sources currently do a number on my >>>>>>>> brain. >>>>>>>> Karen >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That being said, the audiophile in me cannot resist pointing >>>>>>>>> out that >>>>>>>>> pronunciation abilities of tts are of far less quality than those >>>>>>>>> provided by many actual screen readers, at least the ones I have >>>>>>>>> used...which???? does not include any for Linux. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That being said, the technofile in me cannot resist pointing >>>>>>>>> out the >>>>>>>>> fact that every screen reader for every OS uses nothing but TTS >>>>>>>>> technology to read the screen. Well, I guess BeMyEyes doesn't, >>>>>>>>> but it's >>>>>>>>> not exactly a screen reader, unless you need the volunteer to >>>>>>>>> read a >>>>>>>>> screen for you. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ~ Kyle >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Blinux-list mailing list >>>>>>>> Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx >>>>>>>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Rudy Vener >>>>>>> Website: http://www.rudyvener.com >>>>>>> Twitter: https://twitter.com/RudySalt >>>>>>> The difference between truth and falsehood is that truth remains >>>>>>> constant no matter which political party holds the majority. >>>>>>> - A. R. 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