Okay then,
This illustrates another point which got touched on in a different thread
as well.
The, you must be prepared to do programming if you are going to use Linux
fluidly, if at all.
On an entirely different list I am on, folks were complaining about
windows 10 and windows 11, because of the changes.
Computers are increasingly such critical parts of our lives, banking
shopping, even voting, that many on the list spoke of just wanting to sit
down at their computer and have things work...so they still use older
editions of things like Windows XP? and Windows 7.
I admit that is part of why the out of the box concept discussed here where
Access is concerned seems a bit, speaking personally, like a
misconception.
Few on the list I referenced above are using adaptive tools, and some of
them are scientists, with many not wanting configuring to be a part of
their computer lives.
So, why do you use Linux?
what makes it worth the time the training and the trial / error?
Oh, and is it your only operating system?
Want to ask the latter because I know someone who indeed uses Linux
exclusively, vowing never to touch windows again.
Please feel free to express in detail, never mind my personal situation,
because the journalist in me is interested as well.
Karen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Fair point.
As regards the keyboard, I agree with the main keyboard philosophy, and
in fact speakup does allow you to customize it to use the main keyboard instead of the
keypad. However, it took me a while to customize it to my liking and
required quite a bit of study and generating of personal keymaps, so
might not be of any interest to those who aren't comfortable making
some low level modifications.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 08:16:08PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Which may illustrate my point.
I can use those without changing what I have now.
Speaking personally if Linux does not provide equal access to both hardware
and software speech, in both its command line and graphical platforms, I am
unsure just where the advantage is for me personally.
One thing I personally disliked with speakup, at least the times I tried it
years back was the need to remove my hands from the keyboard for many
things.
That may not hold true all the way around, but I am a solid typist and do
not like having to remove may hands, say use the number pad, if I want as I
work content.
That is me though, which is one magical thing about personal computers.
everyone brings their desires and usage goals to their machines.
Which to my mind again personally means Linux should, if it actually can, be
flexible enough for all choices to work in it command line and graphical.
Karen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
I don't use Firefox. I use a text based browser, either lynx, w3m, or links (the chain) depending.
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 07:48:42PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Rudy,
As an example, may I ask what edition of Firefox you are running with that
dectalk Express?
Karen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Karen,
I use Linux speakup with a Dectalk express speech synthesizer. And I believe speakup also handles the
slot card version of dectalk though you'll need a desktop PC that supports it, so the software is there.
Rudy
On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 05:22:35PM -0500, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Kyle,
i do not consider my hardware decktalk provided via my reading edge to be an
example of text to speech.
By definition, and there are many, the term, which refers to taking
information in text format and rendering it aloud does not, speaking
personally, equal pronunciation ease.
In fact one theory about this has to do with preserving the audiobook
market.
granted, as was pointed out in a thread some time ago, I am not likely to
learn about Linux screen readers, no driver exists for my hardware speech,
and software synthesizer sources currently do a number on my brain.
Karen
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
That being said, the audiophile in me cannot resist pointing out that
pronunciation abilities of tts are of far less quality than those
provided by many actual screen readers, at least the ones I have
used...which???? does not include any for Linux.
That being said, the technofile in me cannot resist pointing out the
fact that every screen reader for every OS uses nothing but TTS
technology to read the screen. Well, I guess BeMyEyes doesn't, but it's
not exactly a screen reader, unless you need the volunteer to read a
screen for you.
~ Kyle
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