Ahh good to know desktops work fine. For me I didn't get speech after
install when selecting Mate but that may be a VM thing.
But if it works fine then that's great. If we can jus throw in the stick
and get Mate or Gnome working, all the better.
On a related note...did Arch updates creep my memory use up? I'm up to
230-24mb from 200-210 in Ratpoison, and about 600-700 on a fresh Mate
session. Firefox shoots that up to 1.5-1.6G for me and with the 3.8G my
VM has I'm trying to save as much RAM as I can though
On 12/15/21 20:55, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi,
Worked like a champ. The on,ly thing I was confused about was the
disk selection. After selecting the fdisk you are still at disk
selection step which you can just press enter to continue as the disk
you chose at the first promped it is alreafdy selected, but this is
not spoken by orca however just keep this in mind. Also, the desktop
selection went fine. I selected alsa-utils, espeakup, firefox and
thunderbird and everything else went fine at least in my vm which is
using UEFI.
Matthew
On 12/14/2021 7:06 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Once you boot the ISO with speech (which is down once on the boot
menu, so just down and enter then wait), and it logs you in and you
get the root@archiso prompt just type archinstall and it'll do a
connection test then come up with the guided installer.
99% of it is intuitive. I've not got around to testing the install
option for desktops. I personally go with a base instal and customize
my system as needed, but YMMV on that one. The only bit that tripped
me up was the region selection (second step) and the disk selection
since that changed to where you select your disk, then don't select
anything to continue. It walks you through the steps one at a time,
and if you know how to install Arch accessibly, the extra packages
step is the same as pacstrap.
Few things to note:
1. It auto enables espeakup if it's installed (I usually install it
out of habit)
2. I'm not sure of the keys to shut espeakup off however...
And the big, big one. The last I checked, November. It only workd on
UEFI machines /but/ that might have been changed. I honestly don't
know if it's working on legacy BIOS machines
Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi,
Is this guided installer part of the arch iso? If so, how do you
get it going?? I would like to give this a test and see how this
works.
Matthew
On 12/14/2021 7:59 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
ell there's a history of posts as far as Jenux breaking with people
way more qualified than me digging through the code and having
things break on their installs. I've personally had Jenux corrupt a
flash drive to the point it's a glorified paprweight due to
shenanigans with writing to it.
That being said. Now Arch itself has the guided mode installer,
which is perfectly useable with espeakup and that once installed,
as of this month auto enables speech/braille at the end of the
install, I'd argue Arch are doing a better job at making their
systems accessible* than people assume though. I;d also say okay,
Arch has a guided installer that works** and if booted with
accessibility on, keeps those settings and gives you a working
(base, mind) system out of the box.
* Provided you install alsa-utils/espeakup as per a normal
accessibility Arch install. There's a step in the guided installer
where it asks for extra packages, that's where you plug
alsa-utils/espeakup in. espeakup.service gets auto enabled at the
end of the install as part of the installer
** Works, as long as you're okay with a base install but getting a
DE up and running isn't that bad really once you did the install.
I've not got the desktop ones to work currently but still poking at
it. I'm tempted to add in orca-speech-dispatcher and so forth into
the extra packages step.
at that however.
On 12/14/21 12:46, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi,
I did use the latest as of about 15 hours ago. I did also verify
the iso.
The issue this time is that after running the installer and
rebooting, nothing spoke. the seeingAI on the iphone could read
the screen just fine, but I couldn't
Last time it was orca in Mate that didn't want to come on, no
matter what I do.
I found that with Jenux, never expect the same thing to go wrong
twice, however something will break.
Warm regards,
Brandt
On 2021/12/14 14:31, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Jenux gets regular updates latest is 2021.11.17 unless that
changed today.
Did you verify your iso download? If I find an .sha512 file file
for an
iso, I won't install the iso without first verifying it with the
.sha512
file. So two potential problems not using current Jenux install
iso or
failed to verify iso. If you don't have those two problems,
please write
dnl.nash@xxxxxxxxx and let him know the problem you encountered
on your
install fail. That one is the developer.
On Tue, 14 Dec 2021, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi,
Jenux failed on me, again. I think I'll give it a skip for now,
that is unless
the dev actually fixes the thing.
I am on Fedora, for now, because it was the nearest Usb stick I
could grab
quickly.
I might just give the vanilla Arch ISO another go. Why not?
On 2021/12/14 13:05, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
or Manjaro Architect.
Personally. I've had success with the vanilla Arch ISO and the
guided
installer (the archinstall one), I just set it to boot up
talking, went
through it and added in alsa-utils/espeakup and then put
speech-dispatcher/Orca/voices and a window manager on once the
system was
installed.
Jenux has never really worked for me on a VM or bare metal at
all, whereas
the official arch ISO is working rather well, and I dunno if
the Architect
edition is 36/64 bit or 32bit only or 64bit only. Admittedly,
I've got a
64bit UEFI system so the official ISo works flawlessly on it
however, but
YMMV on that oneYes, but you probably don't want to hear it if
you are set
on using Jenux however.
On 12/14/21 09:18, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Hi all,
I decided to give Jenux another go, last time, no matter what
I tried, I
couldn't get orca to come on after logging in to the system.
Does anyone have any advice?
Also, if this doesn't work out, is there a guide for doing a
Manjaro
architect install? "Manjaro Talking" got updated a little
while ago, and
if, as I said, Jenux doesn't work out, I'd like to give that
one a go.
Thanks so long.
Warm regards,
Brandt Steenkamp
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