I just determined that the right alt key doesn't work in a console,
either. I forget how, but with an earlier distro I got it to work. I
don't remember that it carried over to Emacs, but I'm not sure I
actually used Emacs at that point.
Al
On 11/30/21 14:04, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
And does the right alt key work as expected outside of Emacs? I'm just guessing here, but this may have to do more with your keyboard or language setting than anything in Emacs.
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What does you right alt key do instead? When you press Right alt + x, what happens?
Devin Prater
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On Tue, Nov 30, 2021 at 12:59 PM Linux for blind general discussion < blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Greetings!
I started out with Emacs back in 2005 or so, but until lately have
used Vim exclusively. I'm once again trying to learn Emacs, partly
because of some of its extras and partly because I'm curious about how
Emacspeak is to use.
In any event, maybe an Emacs user can tell me how to get the right alt
key to work the same as the left one. I expect that this would make
it easier to use some of the key combinations.
Thanks for any help.
Al
On 11/30/21 13:43, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
In all fairness, a pair of scissors, probably the most common tool
for cutting paper, kind of looks like the letter X, but honestly
ctrl+x for cut and ctrl+v for paste most likely came about because
ctrl+C is copy and x, c, and v are adjacent on qwerty keyboards and
there's a certain sense to putting related functions together...
Then again, even the mnemonic keystrokes probably only work as such
in the language of the one who picked them and maybe a few closely
related languages if you're lucky... and that we even call these
functions cut and paste is arguably an artifact of a by gone era,
similar to how often GUIs use floppy discs as the save icon or
old-fashioned microphones for record icons.
I will admit, I often find myself trying to use nano's key bindings
when typing stuff in Firefox... and if I had the programming chops
to write my own web browser, I'd probably have the Universal GUI
keybindings as the default when editing text if I was going to
release it, but would want to have the option to use nano
keybindings if not just embed a nano "window" in the active text box.
Though, on the subject of comparing emacs to a desktop environment...
and perhaps it is more accurate to call emacs a TUI DE than a text
editor, as a general rule, those applications another user mentions
as things you'd expect a desktop environment to be bundled with are
completely out of the way when not in use, can be ignored or removed
if you don't use them, and can be replaced with other applications
if you so choose. From the sounds of it, emacs is less a case of
bundling an editor with other applications and the suite having a
unified look and feel and more a case of mashing several
applications together and if you just want a standalone editor,
there's no way of uninstalling the other stuff, though admittedly,
that's speaking from an outsider perspective.
If nothing else, it sounds like emacs runs contrary to the "do one
thing and do it well" and modularity aspects of the Unix philosophy.
Though, to add another text-mode editor to the pile, there's also
e3, who's two main advertised features are small size(Aptitude lists
uncompressed size at 72K compared to nano's 2833k) and multiple
executables that each duplicate the keybindings of a different text
editor(including emacs, vi, pico, and nedit).
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