In all fairness, a pair of scissors, probably the most common tool for cutting paper, kind of looks like the letter X, but honestly ctrl+x for cut and ctrl+v for paste most likely came about because ctrl+C is copy and x, c, and v are adjacent on qwerty keyboards and there's a certain sense to putting related functions together... Then again, even the mnemonic keystrokes probably only work as such in the language of the one who picked them and maybe a few closely related languages if you're lucky... and that we even call these functions cut and paste is arguably an artifact of a by gone era, similar to how often GUIs use floppy discs as the save icon or old-fashioned microphones for record icons. I will admit, I often find myself trying to use nano's key bindings when typing stuff in Firefox... and if I had the programming chops to write my own web browser, I'd probably have the Universal GUI keybindings as the default when editing text if I was going to release it, but would want to have the option to use nano keybindings if not just embed a nano "window" in the active text box. Though, on the subject of comparing emacs to a desktop environment... and perhaps it is more accurate to call emacs a TUI DE than a text editor, as a general rule, those applications another user mentions as things you'd expect a desktop environment to be bundled with are completely out of the way when not in use, can be ignored or removed if you don't use them, and can be replaced with other applications if you so choose. From the sounds of it, emacs is less a case of bundling an editor with other applications and the suite having a unified look and feel and more a case of mashing several applications together and if you just want a standalone editor, there's no way of uninstalling the other stuff, though admittedly, that's speaking from an outsider perspective. If nothing else, it sounds like emacs runs contrary to the "do one thing and do it well" and modularity aspects of the Unix philosophy. Though, to add another text-mode editor to the pile, there's also e3, who's two main advertised features are small size(Aptitude lists uncompressed size at 72K compared to nano's 2833k) and multiple executables that each duplicate the keybindings of a different text editor(including emacs, vi, pico, and nedit). _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list