I tried installing the light version of kali linux and was able to
install it with speech but post install I'm not even sure I ever managed
to login. If I did log in, speech was most definitely off and I
couldn't run speaker-test or start espeakup once logged in. Next time I
try that, I'll use be my eyes to look at my monitor and tell me what's
going on.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 02:18:14
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
Kali Linux is intended for pen testing. Post-install accessibility is hit or
miss though. This may be due to iso integrity issues which can be handled by
use of a bittorrent for downloads when available.
On Sat, 6 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2018 01:13:44
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
Hi,
Le 06/01/2018 ? 02:59, Linux for blind general discussion a ?crit?:
Thank you all for this information.
I was able to get Orca to copy text from the terminal but it worked some
times and did not work other times. I was also unable to review the
entire contents of the terminal output using Orca. I have a feeling this
might be due to my limited knowledge of Orca and all the review commands.
Just keep in mind that even regular users cannot see all the content of
the output if so long. To see more output, with eyes as well as with
Orca, first ensure your terminal window is maximized. Then, ctrl-pgup
makes scroll up the output.
How do you all interace with output from the terminal window? I know if
you are using Linux you must primarily work in the command line, right?
No, I work everyday with biginner users, not technical, they know 0
commands.
Is the new distro of Linux pretty stable? What is it? Sling or something?
I really like Debian distros and would most likely go with that unless
there is another distro which is better equipt for accessibility. I am
using Linux for pen testing and network security so I want to make sure I
have access to all the tools I will need as well as any and all console
output. If speak up works well in the terminal I might just look into
that since I will work primarily in the command line any ways.
Emacspeak (or speech-el in Emavs) work too for such usage.
Regards
Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
Bryan Duarte | software engineer
ASU Computer Science Ph.D Student
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Alliance for Person-centered Accessible Technology (APAcT)
Center for Cognitive Ubiquitous Computing (CUbiC Lab)
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Arizona Association of Blind Students | President
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On Jan 5, 2018, at 6:45 PM, Linux for blind general discussion
<blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
fenrir is the name of that screen reader and when run it has to be run
as root with pulseaudio running as --system. I have had no luck getting
fenrir running at all. Anywhere in orca cut and paste is difficult which
makes setting up google drive and dropbox just about impossible along
with youtube-viewer when you want to login to your youtube account since
a code on a web page has to be cut then pasted back into the
application. These cut and paste operations can't be done with speakup
since speakup can't run with firefox or chrome or chromium. In terminal
mode in orca, the edit menu is all that's likely to offer any cut and
paste capability and it's limited to select all then cut then later
paste. I suppose one might paste to a new file then edit that file
removing any extraneous output and then maybe cutting from that file and
maybe pasting where you want that output to go. A package called xclip
and another called gpaste exist but I've not heard of people using ei
th
er for t
his work with orca yet.
The speakup cut and paste facilities are really effective on the console
level. I'm wondering if you have both speakup and orca running on the
same system with speakup turned off while running orca could you go into
terminal in orca, shut orca off with insert-q then start speakup and
have speakup talk you through what's going on in the terminal? I think
even if this were done and you could do a good cut operation with
speakup probably once speakup were turned off and terminal were exited
and orca was turned back on a paste operation couldn't be done with the
cut material from speakup since speakup and whatever graphical user
environment being run both use different clipboard memory real estate.
If both use the same memory space more would be possible.
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 20:20:09
From: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: Linux for blind general discussion <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Linux distro and questions
Well Brian, I can answer 2 items in your list. Yes, Speakup has a quite
good review function, similar but lots better than NVDA in windows.
What really comes in handy are the cut-and-past ability which I use all
the time. As for your laptop, why not try Vinux 5.1, currently based on
Ubuntu, but soon switching to Fedora.
O-and-there is also a Fenrar screen-reader, but I know little about it.
Chime
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