Well, the serial terminal is also built into the kernel. you're just
depending a a different set of maintainers. A serial terminal is no
where near as usable as speakup is at boot time. You talk about a serial
terminal needing only another machine like an RP but that's not entirely
true. You need a null modem cable and you need a terminal emulator
configured on the other machine. You need to make sure you have the
right baud rate, etcetra. In an emergency, that's a hassle.
And speakup is not obsolete. It's under active development. I am going
to say there has been over 100 messages on the speakup list from the
developers in the month of April. There have been so many that I haven't
even seen exactly what fixes they are making.
-- John Heim
On 04/24/2017 10:45 AM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Boot messages can be sent out via a serial console, without the help
of a screen reader locked into the kernel, where it is harder to fix
bugs and harder to keep it updated, as the whole kernel has to be
updated along with it. I know the serial console works, as I have a
uart header on my computer with a cable that allows me to debug any
problems I find in boot messages, and even in boot loader messages
that are shown prior to "starting kernel ...", from any other machine
that has a USB port. And there is yet another thing. I can use any
computer with a USB port and fully interact with the machine where I
need to see its boot messages, which is something I cannot do with
Speakup on any kernel as of now, and I don't have to purchase a very
expensive and quite obsolete hardware speech synthesizer to see my
kernel and boot loader messages either, as if I have no other machine
I can use to access boot messages, a $35 Raspberry Pi or even a $15
Orange Pi will do quite nicely.
Frankly, everything that Speakup can possibly do can be done by any
number of other applications and even any number of other kernels.
Most users only use software speech for daily tasks, and Fenrir covers
that. Others need to see boot messages occasionally, and a serial
console is best for that. It would seem now that Speakup is pretty
much obsolete, so even if it was to find its way into the stable
kernel tree tomorrow, it would be far too little too late for me, as I
have already found better solutions.
~Kyle
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