I suspect the person's e-mail client just automatically quoted the last message in the thread, and to be quite honest, I'd argue most quoting on these lists is non-sensical, which is why I always uncheck the "include quoted text" checkbox before starting to type a reply(as an aside, if anyone knows how to change Gmail's default behavior to not quote, I'd greatly appreciate it). That said, I agree that you'd be hard pressed to find anything everyone in the blind community has in common, but I think the recognition of the community still has value. As unlikely as it is that any two people will have the same set of experiences, if one is dealing with a problem related to vision loss or a product designed with sighted users in mind, I'd say you'd have better chances of finding someone who has previously dealt with a similar problem and can offer relevant advice. Not to say there isn't value in trying to better educate the sighted on the realities of blindness and vision loss, but it isn't always easy to get another to comprehend that something they take for granted is a problem or to provide advice to help another resolve a problem one finds trivial, and this perspective gap can be quite profound whether we're talking blind and sighted, cli user and gui user, professional and layperson, or any of a myriad of other divisions one could make. Universal Design and unity in diversity are great ideals to strive for, but sometimes, practicality demands an in-group works for their own betterment because the out group can't be motivated to help. -- Sincerely, Jeffery Wright President Emeritus, Nu Nu Chapter, Phi Theta Kappa. Former Secretary, Student Government Association, College of the Albemarle. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list