I'm not sure if I'm following these arguments. Blind users do share some
common goals in a distribution. An accessible installer, accessible
applications and so on. I'm also not sure there' needs to be such a
strong sense of community. There are hundreds of distributions out there
now. I'm sure there are distributions based on a lot less shared needs
then blind Linux users have. I say just as any other distribution, put
it out there and either the users will come or they won't.
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On 23/04/17 20:16, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Again I say what community?
If one utilized a definition of shared attributes drawn from the
majority of those you consider in your community, one thing you just
indicated would
mean you do not qualify.
In every major country where figures are available, less than 10% of
those who are indeed blind read braille. that means 90% of your
community do not share something with you, but you feed a stereotype
from those outside of your community as you cal it makes it harder for
that 90%.
You talking of uniformity where little if any exists, though likely not
intended, feeds the barriers to understanding by those you define as
totally outside of your community.
I prefer to focus on common desires with individual choices. The more
choices on the buffet, the greater the number who are fed.
Kare
On Sun, 23 Apr 2017, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
I am probably the one who made the quit about the "blind community".
And yes, that label does cause a "us vs. them response). Still, when
it comes to the world in general, we all have to educate others and
some of them just won't listen. Frankly, to me, it doesn't matter too
much. Every group, regardless of disability, race, etc has its
elitists and also has its common folks.
Unfortunately, community is needed just now because, without it, no
one will listen. If everyone listened, there wouldn't be a need.
Now, as for me… I am about as individual as they get. I can function
independently, read braille, type pretty fast and I still have my
health. I don't like collective groups, but they can be a useful tool
for getting some things done. Thats pretty much the same thing with
Linux. Its a collective group that has one idea in mind: free and open
source. Anything wrong with that? nope!
now, perhaps we have gotten a bit off track here.
-eric
On Apr 23, 2017, at 5:50 PM, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
Um, to the non-existent community person, did you really mean to
respond to me? I believe I ultimately said the same thing. I'm not
the one who mentioned some "blind community," and I for one also
believe this is something that simply doesn't exist. I'm just as
human as you, and I work toward humanization of all humans, not
discrimination against any human, which is why I also struggle to
inform people of the real ramifications of the whole "blind" vs
"sighted" attitude. Once we can get to the place where we are all
human whether our eies fully work or not, then we can solve a lot
more of the world's problems, including the "mainstream" vs
"specialized" problem.
~Kyle
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