Hi! Thats intresting. I am the total oposit guy. I had and have no problems learning gui’s but for me the command line is to hard. Although i began with a debian command line system 16 years ago and gave that up for windows a couple of years. Now i am back to vinux and a mac with osx. I whish i was patient enough to learn command line. Maybe i am to dum or maybe i am lazy. /A > On 17 Jul 2016, at 22:57, Sam Hartman <hartmans@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> "John" == John J Boyer <john.boyer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > > John> I';ve been trying to get a feel for GUIs for years. Sighted > John> colleagues are no help. They only tell me how they use the > John> mouse. They won't use a keyboard shourcut even when it is much > John> simpler. For example, they will scroll down a long document > John> instead of using ctrl+f to find something. i've tried > John> unsuccessfully tpo find a Jaws trainer. After I reinstalled > John> Windows 7 recently Jaws wouldn't install. I'm now using NVDA > John> and I don't think I'll go back to Jaws. > > This is really interesting, because now I'm realizing that I don't know > how to teach someone GUIs on modern equipment at all. > I don't know if I can find a solution, but I'll see if I can toss the > question around. > > I hear your frustration completely about people who know one way of > doing something and who aren't even great at articulating that. > > I started to say "well, understanding the mouse at least well enough to > get your screen reader to click places and stuff is worth knowing. > That's true of course, although I just realized that most of the screen > readers I use these days actually wouldn't let me click usefully on a > scroll bar if I wanted to. > So, even if you wanted to be incredibly slow, you can't get work done > just understanding the mouse operations. > > Thanks for helping me understand an interesting challenge; I'll let you > know if I come up with anything that might help at all. > > --Sam > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list