I found an old announcement about the ZipSpeak. I not long ago scrapped an old p2 with slackware 9 and speakup on; but this miniVersion ready made might yet still appeal to me. But I never got as far as the EmacSpeak; is this latter included in the former or could it be? and to what benefit? The key reason I didn't chase Linux far is relative lack of basic navigation with arrow keys within editors. VI and it's ilk are notorious for this. I did well with Edbrowse mind and it is advancing all the time. But being based on the old ED, it was not good as an editor either. I'm on blinux list occasionally and see reference to ORke is it, a speech interface for the Gnome gui and using a software synthesiser too; aren't there ready-made versions that come up talking with soft synthesisers too? Escaping the MS trap does still appeal to me and a smart phone hasn't yet answered that question. Mac's don't appear 2nd hand enough to chase either. Reference to specific docs would help no end; many thanks, RobH. _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list