Hi Janina, The reasons for the need to gain access to the GUI tools involve using applications. Many of the applications used by sighted people are GUI. In order to be able to interact with the information provided with these applications, we must be able to use them. For instance, I am hoping that Gnopernicus + Java will provide a level of accessibility to my work-related application. I can guarantee you that this SMS client wouldn't run in a strictly console environment. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: "Linux for blind general discussion" <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:50 PM Subject: Re: Questions about installing Gnopernicus. > Well, I don't know anything about this editor you use, so I have no > notion why you might find it preferable to emacs or vim. > > All I can tell you is that the console environment is very accessible. > Whether the GUI environment becomes accessible with tools like this > editor--that's a crap shoot, imho. Most of us over here on Linux don't > understand why the people doing Gnopernicus and gnome accessibility > think that enabling Gedit and the gnome terminal for screen reader > access is any kind of big deal. But, maybe you'll think it is. > > John Heim writes: > > At 02:46 PM 10/13/2004, Janina Sajka you wrote: > > >Well, you can certainly earn a living running Linux as a blind user, but > > >not with Gnopernicus. At least, not yet. > > > > > > Hmmm... Too bad. > > > > I mostly write programs for linux systems. I do some ASP. But I do almost > > all of my editing via a Windows program called Textpad. I suppose it's > > probably because it's wht I'm used to. > > > > I started out as a unix guy and when they plopped a Windows 95 machine down > > on my desk I was like, "Where the heck is the command line? How the heck am > > I supposed to add myself as a user? What's the root password?" This > > business of clicking buttons to do everything seemed ludicrous. Still does > > kind of. > > > > I used to use emacs all day, every day. But now I'd hate to have to give up > > my GUI editor. When nopernicus is ready for prime time, I'll look for an > > editor similar to Textpad before switching. > > > > Sure would like to get rid of Windows/JAWS though. > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Chair > Accessibility Workgroup > Free Standards Group (FSG) > > janina@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Phone: +1 202.494.7040 > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx > https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list