Re: discussion:Fw: [The vOICe] Linux? Yes, probably

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What things sound like?

Not.

What someone's algorithm sounds like given certain parameters.

Is that useful? Perhaps. For example, I would image dropping a pebble in
the pond would yield a fairly steady sine tone. But, so what?

David Poehlman writes:
> From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> actually, it is a bit more subtle than that.  You can actually learn to hear
> what some things sound like if they are not too complex.  The primary
> purpose for rendering images as sound scapes as is done through the vOICe is
> to gain information from one's environment rather than to examine images or
> printed material although there are possibilities there as well.  You can
> find a lot of things to listen to at:
> http://www.seeingwithsound.com
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Brent Harding" <bharding@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: discussion:Fw: [The vOICe] Linux? Yes, probably
> 
> 
> OK, so if I scan in a piece of mail, with this audible code, how would it be
> interpreted? It seems like such software might only be of use to compare
> things, like two pictures of me should generate similar sound patterns, but
> would be unidentifiable other than that.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Poehlman" <poehlman1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, July 18, 2003 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: discussion:Fw: [The vOICe] Linux? Yes, probably
> 
> 
> > peter responds requesting me to post:
> >
> > Hi Brent and all,
> >
> > You say
> >
> > > My friend uses kurzweil and I do too, but he
> > > has a camera attached, and kurzweil allows
> > > selection of that as scanner source, how on
> > > earth do you use a camera like a scanner, to
> > > read anything?
> >
> > The Kurzweil software only deals with text,
> > while The vOICe "reads" any image content
> > in "raw" form, hence indiscriminate of the
> > visual content. It does so by scanning each
> > image from left to right while associating
> > height with pitch and brightness with loudness.
> >
> > Therefore it is far more general than what
> > Ray Kurzweil recently described in his article
> > in the July 1 issue of eSchool News, saying
> >
> > > For blind people, we actually will have reading machines
> > > within a few years that are not just sitting on a desk,
> > > but are tiny devices you put in your pocket. You'll take
> > > pictures of signs on the wall, handouts at meetings, and
> > > so on. We all encounter text everywhere, on the back of
> > > packages, on menus. By 2010, these devices will be very
> > > tiny. You will be able to wear one on your lapel and
> > > scan in all directions. These devices probably will be
> > > used by the sighted as well, because they will allow us
> > > to get visual information from all around us.
> >
> > The vOICe "reads" arbitrary visual shapes and
> > patterns, including for instance line graphs,
> > to make for a relatively easy starting point.
> > In many other cases, the resulting sounds can
> > be excruciatingly complex and hard to interpret.
> > The vOICe does not attempt to interpret the
> > camera view in any way. That part is left to
> > the user (or to optional add-ons for OCR and
> > shape recognition, like those for use with
> > The vOICe Learning Edition). Of course this
> > kind of general but hard-to-master technology
> > will not be appreciated by everyone, as was
> > confirmed by some of the recent reply postings
> > on this list.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Peter Meijer
> >
> > Seeing with Sound - The vOICe
> > http://www.seeingwithsound.com
> >
> > Source URL of full eSchool article (free registration needed):
> > http://www.eschoolnews.com/news/showStory.cfm?ArticleID=4491
> >
> >
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