Actually, I downloaded the Oralux CD and burned it. IT HAS BRAILLE! COOL!!!!!! It is a little hard to actually get working, but it's there. You have to exit from Emacspeak sith c-x c-c. then "su -" and then start brltty the way you normally do. There is no root password, so root access is granted the second you "su -." Then you can just "logout" and you will be back at your user prompt, (knoppix@xxxxx[knoppix]) or something like that, and you can continue operating from the console. Lorenzo -- We use Linux for all our mission-critical applications. Having the source code means that we are not held hostage by anyone's support department. (Russell Nelson, President of Crynwr Software) _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list