OK. I understand now. So, if Red Hat worked and Debian doesn't, why not go back to Red Hat? Your call, of course. michael malver writes: > From: "michael malver" <mmalver@visi.com> > > I can't issue man page commands because I have no linux system to log into. > Imagine that I'm installing debian for the first time on a system which can > hold linux, but whose hard drive has no data. That is where I'm am > currently. > The debian install disks supposedly will support my 3c509 network card, but > for some reason, I can't get out onto my network using these install disks. > I can't seem to find anything in the install doc that would tell me how to > explicitly tell the install program I have a 3com 3c509 isa card on irq3 > The router I'm connected to does supply dhcp, and I know the card and hub > are okay because they worked under redhat once I enabled them in the > modules.conf file. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:01 PM > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: Re: debian install help please > > > michael malver writes: > > > > I don't know what would happen if you issued the comands you referenced in > > the below message. > You get onscreen reports. These tell you things thaat people here need > to know in order to give you useful guidance. > > > > > I boot with the linux floppies. I formatted all my linux partitions > because > > I didn't want any of the data from redhat to interfeer with debian, and I > > didn't feel comfortable with the process they outlined in the install doc > > for modifying a different distro to become debian. > These commaands have nothing to do with any particulaar distribution of > Linux. They're quite generic. Have you read any of the HOWTOs about > networking? > > And, you could answer this question for yourself by pulling up the maan > paaage for each of the commands I suggested. Don't know what lsmod does? > Type 'man lsmod' to find out, for example. > > > , so how would I enter these commands to determine the answers to your > > questions? > > 1.) Log on as root. > > 2.) For each commaand, enter it as shown and note the results: > > > a.) cat /etc/network/interfaces > > Actually, this one is Debian specific, and not Red Hat specific. Red Hat > uses a different organizational scheme for network related data. > > The 'cat' command tells Linux to "print out the contents of the file" > /etc/network/interfaces. > > Actually, you should probably just paste the contents of that file into > an email message for us to see. > > b.) The command lsmod prints out data for every module > loaded. So, lsmod |grep 3c would only print out those responses that hat > '3c' in them, in other words whatever is relevant to 3COM. > > If you get nothing here, or the wrong something, the > explanation for your problem becomes clear. The correct module is > missing. > > c.) ifconfig -a says print out logical network data for all > known interfaces. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > > [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 12:27 PM > > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > > Subject: Re: debian install help please > > > > > > Is your nic listed in /etc/network/interfaces? > > Does it show up with lsmod? Try lsmod |grep 3c > > How about when you type ifconfig -a?? > > > > michael malver writes: > > > From: "michael malver" <mmalver@visi.com> > > > > > > I'm not saying debian speakup doesn't work, only that I have trouble. > > > the disks speak, but I can't initialise the network. When I select the > > > 3c509 from the list of device drivers to be compiled into the kernel, it > > is > > > successfuly added. Does it not try to bring up eth0 after I select that > > > driver? The 3c509 isa card, from what I can tell, should be recognised > by > > > the install disk I'm using. Do I need to edit some file to provide > > > parameters to make it be seen? > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > > > [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of White, Matt > > > Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:54 AM > > > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > > > Subject: Re: debian install help please > > > > > > > > > I have been a long-time Debian fan and would be willing to test a > > > Speakup-modified Debian install. I find that Debian is more flexible > > > than Redhat and find the APT tool invaluable. > > > > > > Is there anyone else on this list willing to test Debian/Speakup? > > > > > > Matt > > > > > > Mario Lang said: > > > > I've been told the speakup enabled woody boot-floppies dont work. Dont > > > > know if this information changed since then. > > > > > > > > "michael malver" <mmalver@visi.com> writes: > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > >> If I want to instal from cdrom, can I use the boot floppies to get > > > >> the first part of the install done, and then use a woody 3.0 cd iso > > > >> image from the debian site to do the rest, or is speakup not > > > >> included? > > > > > > > > Speakup is not included with woody CD images, so you will probably be > > > > able to install the base-system with the CD-images and your > > > > modified boot-floppies, but after the first initial reboot, the system > > > > will not talk. > > > > > > > > Mainly this is because no one really cared to help get speakup > > > > properly integrated with Debian. > > > > > > > >> I tried reading the install document, but I'm confused. I hope I'm > > > >> asking the proper questions. > > > > > > > > I'm sorry, but I think you'll be quite out of luck with Woddy and > > > > speakup. boot-floppies are a hell to modify, and its already hard > > > > enough to get them to compile. They'll be droped in favor for > > > > debian-installer in the next release (happy happy grin). > > > > > > > > The basics are there for speakup-support in future installer releases, > > > > but without any substantial help from speakup users (read, testing), I > > > > will not continue any work in this direction. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > CYa, > > > > Mario | Debian Developer <URL:http://debian.org/> > > > > | Get my public key via finger mlang@db.debian.org > > > > | 1024D/7FC1A0854909BCCDBE6C102DDFFC022A6B113E44 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > -- > > Janina Sajka, Director > Technology Research and Development > Governmental Relations Group > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list