Mario, It would be nice to disable a screen completely... you must realize though, there's no good reason for there to be a mass-market device with no screen... and just think how hard it would be to get your screen back on if you inadvertently deactivated it. LOL the hp3100 series is at least monochrome and much cheaper then the 3600. the linux installer is now supposed to work the same way. I'm sure they'll not make a mono 3800 model. and soon that will be the only device on the market. I am watching the mail on the simputer list. It sounds like their open design might allow you to easily get a bunch of them with no screen or something. I'd still think a device which just happens to be perfectly usable by folks who can't see a screen would be ideal. the keyboar I mentioned may in fact be made by hp. i'm pretty sure I saw it on their site. I'll have to check again. J -----Original Message----- From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Mario Lang Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:19 AM To: blinux-list@redhat.com Subject: Re: talking linux palm? "Joel Zimba" <jzimba@erols.com> writes: > there are keyboards which snap onto the ipaq btw. Uhm, that sounds quite nice. Do you have any link or product name? Remaining problem is that we then pay for a screen we dont need. That makes for additional size/weight too. At least, we d need a reliable way of disabling the screen completely, as it uses battery. > I don't remember if they act as a sleeve, or require the sleeve, but it > seems like the one I read about had added battery life > as well as adding pcmcia or cf flash (as in another slot and maybe bluetooth > or 802.11 CF + pcmcia is quite essential I think. > I'm still not sure the keyboard is necessary. when I can start hacking with > one... which has been put on hold for a while... > I don't think the scheme I've thought of for entering characters with the > finger or stylus would be that hard to implement... > especially if you mark 8 or 9 places on the screen... actually making the > 12 dots of a phone pad would work nicely as well, so numbers could be > faster. Interesting idea, but I wouldnt like to use that I think. I prefer keyboards, no matter how small they are. I once typed a little bit with the NOkia communicator which has a really small keyboard. ANd it worked out quite well. You cant use touch-typing of course, but with a little practice you end up being quite fast. Still, a device with mini-keyboard, without screen at all would be my perfect system. -- CYa, Mario _______________________________________________ Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list