Darrell, I use Lynx all the time, and on the majority of Web sites it gives far better results than IE and Jaws ever did. Of course, BRLTTY has much better Braille output than Jaws. In any case, I'm not going back to Windows because some sites insist on using flashy effects. Oet's hope that Gnome 2 really has good accessibility features and that the Gnopernicus screen reader really has good Braille output. John On Sat, 13 Jul 2002, Darrell Shandrow wrote: > Hi Cheryl, > > I'll check this one out shortly, but I do not believe good web site > accessibility absolutely requires that the site work with Lynx. The Lynx > browser is quite obsolete in comparison to current technology... If the > site uses Java Script, and Lynx can't do Java Script, then that's not > necessarily an accessibility issue if a Java Script capable browser with a > screen reader can successfully render an accessible result. > > We must be careful here; what constitutes accessibility? > > Thanks. > > At 07:18 PM 7/12/2002 -0500, you wrote: > > >Hi everybody. > >ray morgan, the 508 coordinator for the US postal Service, has been > >corresponding with me re: the inaccessibility of the www.usps.com site. I had > >pointed out to him that when using lynx one gets a message about enabling > >javascript, and when using links-2.0 and above it is impossible to check out > >once you have placed something in your cart. He has been diligently keeping me > >posted regarding progress on the site. > >Today he wrote and said that i should be able to purchase and check out > >now, but > >he also indicated that javascript support is still needed. He also indicated > >that testers found the site works with jaws, though he said some more work > >needs > >to be done. > >I worte him back and thanked him for all his effort and diligence in informing > >me, but also reminded him that usability with jaws and accessibility are not > >necessarily the same thing. I pointed out that not everybody wants to use Jaws > >and that not everybody who even wants to do so can afford it. I told him I > >would > >let him know what happened when I tried to use the site again. > >Unfortunately, when I went to the site and again tried to buy stamps, nothing > >had changed for me. with links-2.1pre2 I was unable to go through checkout and > >with lynx I of course got the same old messages about enabling javascript. > >I wrote to ray and told him that i would post on this list and see if somebdy > >with more technical knowledge than I possess would like to try to help track > >down the problem. If anybody is interested in trying to help with this, > >Ray Morgan's email address is > >RMORGAN1@email.usps.gov > > > >I think he really genuinely is trying to work on this problem. > >Thanks. > > > >Cheryl > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.373 / Virus Database: 208 - Release Date: 7/1/2002 > > Best regards, > Darrell Shandrow > Access technology consulting / network and UNIX systems administration. > CompTIA A+ Certified Service Technician! > -- Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703