You should be able to use the BrailleLite with the bns driver of speakup. You could also use the serial option of lilo which would provide the only input you need before the login prompt. Then you can switch over to brltty and use it with that. I'd say you have a lot of options avilable to you already. Kirk -- Kirk Reiser The Computer Braille Facility e-mail: kirk@braille.uwo.ca University of Western Ontario phone: (519) 661-3061