Rafael, You seem to be the answer guy today. In your reply to my questions about changing to ext3 you said that Debian had much better packaging than Redhat. I have Redhat 7.1, with a bit of 7.2. How would I change to Debian with a minimum of pain? Thanks. John -- Computers to Help People, Inc. http://www.chpi.org 825 East Johnson; Madison, WI 53703