point taken but please do take on board what people say and try and do at the very least your level best to get things to a point wherebye people can access bookshare without too much fuss.. as an australian citizen I can't take advantage of bookshare but I just want to see everyone happy. even the developers/maintainers. <big grin.> -- Shaun If little else, the brain is an educational toy. -- Tom Robbins EMAIL: shauno@goanna.net.au ICQ: 76958435