Don't know, too hard just for this type of thing. One would probably have to be pretty good for the devices to recognize anything usefull anyways, from what I hear of them. At 08:30 AM 11/16/01 -0500, you wrote: >why not learn to write? *smirk* > >-----Original Message----- >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:21 PM >To: blinux-list@redhat.com >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out > > >One problem, handwriting recognition would be useless to me. Does the ipaq >have an accessible form of input, keyboard, etc? >At 05:01 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >>Same price? An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven, >>but you don't need the color resolution. The Elva is what? >> >> >>On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote: >> >>> have a read of handhelds.org it pretty well describes the process for >the >>> ipaq 3600... >>> >>> I've seen descriptions for other devices. it's mostly the same... >>> >>> presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux >loader >>> you would install... >>> I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but >>> certainly possible. >>> >>> and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists >>> which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you. >>> >>> Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming >>> months. >>> now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the >>> level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically. >>> >>> time shall tell, >>> >>> J >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >>> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding >>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM >>> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >>> >>> >>> I suppose, how would one even do this? >>> At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >>> >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba... >>> > >>> >now you see the point? >>> > >>> >-----Original Message----- >>> >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >>> >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding >>> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM >>> >To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >>> > >>> > >>> >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it >installed >>> >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be >like >>> >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily >>> >implemented with linux on a microdrive. >>> >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll >gladly >>> >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!! >>> >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill >>> >>display. >>> >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata? >>> >>J >>> >> >>> >>-----Original Message----- >>> >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >>> >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >>> >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM >>> >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com >>> >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >>> >> >>> >> >>> >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is >>> >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible. >>> >> >>> >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet >>> >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin> >>> >> >>> >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS >>> >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's >>> >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no >>> >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they >>> >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air. >>> >> >>> >> On >>> >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: >>> >> >>> >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so >if >>> >>you >>> >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get >>> >linux >>> >>> on a braille note? >>> >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever >you >>> >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of >course. >>> >We >>> >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux >installation >>> >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and >kde, >>> >>but >>> >>> >I've been wrong before. >>> >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: >>> >>> > >>> >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My >laptop >>> >>isn't >>> >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in >to >>> >the >>> >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable >>> out >>> >>and >>> >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise. >>> >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: >>> >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd >want >>> >to >>> >>> use >>> >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP. >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: >>> >>> >> > >>> >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It >>> >>definately >>> >>> >> has >>> >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. 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