One problem, handwriting recognition would be useless to me. Does the ipaq have an accessible form of input, keyboard, etc? At 05:01 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >Same price? An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven, >but you don't need the color resolution. The Elva is what? > > >On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote: > >> have a read of handhelds.org it pretty well describes the process for the >> ipaq 3600... >> >> I've seen descriptions for other devices. it's mostly the same... >> >> presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux loader >> you would install... >> I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but >> certainly possible. >> >> and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists >> which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you. >> >> Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming >> months. >> now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the >> level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically. >> >> time shall tell, >> >> J >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >> [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM >> To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >> >> >> I suppose, how would one even do this? >> At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba... >> > >> >now you see the point? >> > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >> >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding >> >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM >> >To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >> > >> > >> >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it installed >> >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be like >> >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily >> >implemented with linux on a microdrive. >> >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll gladly >> >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!! >> >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill >> >>display. >> >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata? >> >>J >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >> >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com >> >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka >> >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM >> >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com >> >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out >> >> >> >> >> >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is >> >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible. >> >> >> >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet >> >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin> >> >> >> >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS >> >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's >> >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no >> >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they >> >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air. >> >> >> >> On >> >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: >> >> >> >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so if >> >>you >> >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get >> >linux >> >>> on a braille note? >> >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever you >> >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of course. >> >We >> >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux installation >> >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and kde, >> >>but >> >>> >I've been wrong before. >> >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: >> >>> > >> >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My laptop >> >>isn't >> >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in to >> >the >> >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable >> out >> >>and >> >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise. >> >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: >> >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd want >> >to >> >>> use >> >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP. >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It >> >>definately >> >>> >> has >> >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. 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