Same price? An IPAQ is going to be around six hundred bucks, maybe seven, but you don't need the color resolution. The Elva is what? On Thu, 15 Nov 2001, Joel Zimba wrote: > have a read of handhelds.org it pretty well describes the process for the > ipaq 3600... > > I've seen descriptions for other devices. it's mostly the same... > > presumably there are the utilities for backing up wince and the linux loader > you would install... > I would not put it on the list of practical options at the moment, but > certainly possible. > > and the incentive to do it is pretty much nill now that a device exists > which is roughly the same price and has the work already done for you. > > Linux on devices other then pcs will bbe much more common in the coming > months. > now that tts is coming to be a more mainstream feature, we can expect the > level of hacking required to have reasonable access to drop dramatically. > > time shall tell, > > J > > -----Original Message----- > From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > [mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding > Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 4:07 PM > To: blinux-list@redhat.com > Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out > > > I suppose, how would one even do this? > At 02:41 PM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: > >or you could save yourself the work and buy the elba... > > > >now you see the point? > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Brent Harding > >Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 2:50 PM > >To: blinux-list@redhat.com > >Subject: RE: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out > > > > > >Wow, it'll be interesting to see how that goes, just getting it installed > >might be an issue, loadlin from win CE? If the sound worked, it'd be like > >having a mini computer, mp3, networking, anything we want now, easily > >implemented with linux on a microdrive. > >At 11:31 AM 11/15/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>so if anyone is willing to sacrifice a brlnote for the cause, I'll gladly > >>spearhead the effort to unixize one of them!! > >>now if only we can get the specs for the hardware... like the braill > >>display. > >>anyone have connections at pulsedaata? > >>J > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > >>[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > >>Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2001 11:33 AM > >>To: blinux-list@redhat.com > >>Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out > >> > >> > >>As it happens, the Braille Note is built around the MIPS chip which is > >>supported by linux, so the answer is "yes," that would be possible. > >> > >>As a matter of fact, this is a more timely question than may first meet > >>the ... ahem ... ear? <grin> > >> > >>The Braille Note runs Win CE, but Microsoft will no longer support MIPS > >>clients with it's Win CE OS. Therefore, Pulse Data, the Braille Note's > >>manufacturer finds itself dumped like a spurned lover. They have no > >>tomorrow to look forward to with Microsoft. I have been suggesting they > >>consider going with linux, now that their future is so up in the air. > >> > >> On > >>Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > >> > >>> Wow, the linux is probably in some kind of rom that's unchangable so if > >>you > >>> trash it you have something to come back to. Wonder if you could get > >linux > >>> on a braille note? > >>> At 01:55 PM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>> >Of course it would. If it is supported in linux, it'll run wherever you > >>> >have linux--with the appropriate support modules installed, of course. > >We > >>> >don't know, for example, how complete the Papenmeier linux installation > >>> >is. For example, I would rather doubt they've installed gnome and kde, > >>but > >>> >I've been wrong before. > >>> > On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> Wow, would that likely work in the system's linux support? My laptop > >>isn't > >>> >> working real good for audio, as the dectalk feeds an overtone in to > >the > >>> >> system whenever it's port is accessed, even when pulling the cable > out > >>and > >>> >> all. The port must be giving the noise. > >>> >> At 09:52 AM 11/14/01 -0500, you wrote: > >>> >> >I don't mind the lack of line in. For serious audio work you'd want > >to > >>> use > >>> >> >the pcm slot with a device like the RME Hammerfalls DSP. > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> >On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Tommy Craig wrote: > >>> >> > > >>> >> >> Yes you can use your own software. As for line in and out, It > >>definately > >>> >> has > >>> >> >> line out. I don't believe that it has line in. 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