Oh, that device! I never thought of it as Korean! <grin> Not from Arizona. Anyway, it was delayed, but it is not dead. With a little luck, it will drive the price point on such devices well below $1,000. If this device doesn't do it, another one will within a year or two. I expect that, and I expect to see competition in devices below $1,000. The days of ultra expensive devices are all but over. And, the days of nothing but text files are over as the Papenmeier/Alva shows. Here's what devices today should be expected to do: Read, edit, file, mail. Browse the web Edit documents Print or braille documents Play music Read NISO/DAISY Digital Talking Books Anybody who doesn't do the last one won't have a market in about 18 months. On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > It's hear, forget what it was, wasn't it azpower.com or something? This one > seems to not have speech, think they abandoned it. > At 01:04 PM 11/13/01 -0500, you wrote: > >just to add to the competition, isn't there supposed to be another pda type > >device showing up soon? > >maybe from Korea? someone mentioned to me it might run linux as well... > > > >thanks, > >Joel > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: blinux-list-admin@redhat.com > >[mailto:blinux-list-admin@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Janina Sajka > >Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2001 12:41 PM > >To: blinux-list@redhat.com > >Cc: speakup@braille.uwo.ca > >Subject: Re: the Papenmeir device that was supposed to be coming out > > > > > >Look at the web site: > > > >http://www.sighted.com/elba2002.html > > > >PS: I believe the screen reader in this device is UXDOTS which sells for > >1000 Euros, supposedly. I would very much like to know more about UXDOTS. > >In particular, I would like to hear some justification of such a price, > >especially given that speakup is free. So, what does UXDOTS do that > >speakup doesn't? > > > >To learn about UXDOTS, look at: > > > > http://www.c-lab.de/insb/uxdots_eng.htm > > > >On Mon, 12 Nov 2001, Brent Harding wrote: > > > >> Is there any more about that Papenmeir device that's supposed to be > >coming > >> out soon that runs an embedded form of linux? Will it have line in and > >> outputs for sound on it? What kind of speech will it use? > >> Thanks. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > >> > > > >-- > > > > Janina Sajka, Director > > Technology Research and Development > > Governmental Relations Group > > American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) > > > >Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 > > > >Chair, Accessibility SIG > >Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) > >http://www.openebook.org > > > >Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, > >Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp > > > >Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther > >King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at > >http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp > > > >Learn how to make accessible software at > >http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > -- Janina Sajka, Director Technology Research and Development Governmental Relations Group American Foundation for the Blind (AFB) Email: janina@afb.net Phone: (202) 408-8175 Chair, Accessibility SIG Open Electronic Book Forum (OEBF) http://www.openebook.org Will electronic books surpass print books? Read our white paper, Surpassing Gutenberg, at http://www.afb.org/ebook.asp Download a free sample Digital Talking Book edition of Martin Luther King Jr's inspiring "I Have A Dream" speech at http://www.afb.org/mlkweb.asp Learn how to make accessible software at http://www.afb.org/accessapp.asp