[quoted lines by cbowman on December 11, 2001, at 16:48] >how can I see what version my isp is runing, If you do "uname -s" (without the quotes) it'll tell you which variant of Unix is being used. -- Dave Mielke | 2213 Fox Crescent | I believe that the Bible is the Phone: 1-613-726-0014 | Ottawa, Ontario | Word of God. Please contact me EMail: dave@mielke.cc | Canada K2A 1H7 | if you're concerned about Hell.