Re: arch-proaudio Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3

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Bill,

Agordejo does not start even after I have removed raysession. As you
pointed out that 3.1 is the latest version, and both pamac and pacman are
listing 3.0 -1 as the latest. I agree the issue must have something to do
with my current system not necessarily with agordejo itself. If my packages
are out of date then perhaps my system is in a partially updated state.
I'll try out the triage of all third party software. I forgot about the
linuxaudio lists/forums, I'll take this issue over there.

Thanks for all your help,

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> Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:36:32 -0800
> From: Kevin Roth <safepurge@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  arch-proaudio Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2
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> Hello Nils and Bill,
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> Pamac manager lists Agordejo 0.3.0-1 as the latest release. It also has no
> entries for agordejo-git in the AUR. Both of which are not true and
> peculiar, maybe an issue with my mirrorlist. I tried refreshing and ranking
> for speed and sync. I suspect this is the root of the problem, and I'm
> still investigating. In the meantime, the output from the commands Nils
> suggested:
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> *~ >>> agordejo --versionAgordejo 0.3.0*
> *~ >>>*
> *~ >>>*
>
> *~ >>>ls -la /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemonlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 112 Jan
> 17 11:34 /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon ->
>
> /var/cache/private/pamac/raysession-git/pkg/raysession-git//usr/share/raysession/src/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> *
> ~ >>>
> ~ >>>
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> *~ >>> file /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
>  /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon: broken symbolic link to
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> /var/cache/private/pamac/raysession-git/pkg/raysession-git//usr/share/raysession/src/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> *
> ~ >>>
> ~ >>>
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> *~ >>>lsattr /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemonlsattr: Operation not
> supported While reading flags on /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon*
> ~ >>>
> ~ >>>
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> Sudo produces identical output for the above commands.
> It's worth mentioning I installed raysession from the AUR as an alternative
> because agordejo was already crashing before. Specifically the line:
> "*[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:703 launch(): ERROR:engine.start:Caught crash in
> execpthook. Trying too execute atexit anyway*"
> ~has been present before and after installing raysession. I did try
> uninstalling raysession and tried to start agordejo:
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> *~ >>> agordejo[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:2544 main(): Using OSC port
> 39616[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:2603 main(): Session root is:
> /home/safepurge/NSM Sessions[nsmd] ../src/Endpoint.cpp:205 init(): Creating
> OSC serverNSM_URL=osc.udp://safepurge-ms7a71:39616/[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:2373 announce_gui(): A GUI announced to us from the URL
> osc.udp://127.0.0.1:39013/ <http://127.0.0.1:39013/>[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:2396 announce_gui(): Informing GUI that no session is
> running by sending two empty strings[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:2425
> announce_gui(): Registration with GUI complete[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1716
> osc_list(): Listing sessions[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1716 osc_list(): Listing
> sessions[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1716 osc_list(): Listing sessions[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:1716 osc_list(): Listing sessions[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:1634 osc_new(): Creating new session "new
> session"qt.qpa.xcb: QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence:
> 758, resource id: 4202067, major code: 40 (TranslateCoords), minor code:
> 0[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1663 osc_new(): Informing GUI about running session
> name: new session with relative path /new session[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:735
> launch(): Process jackpatch has pid: 32037[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:703
> launch(): ERROR:engine.start:Caught crash in execpthook. Trying too execute
> atexit anywayLaunching jackpatchTraceback (most recent call last):  File
> "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/jackclient.py", line 69, in _setPlaybackSeconds
> File "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/jacktransport.py", line 98, in
> _react_playbackSecondsTypeError: setValue(self, int): argument 1 has
> unexpected type 'float'[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:735 launch(): Process
> nsm-data has pid: 32038[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp[nsmd] :703../src/nsmd.cpp
> launch():1206:  command_client_to_quit(): Launching nsm-dataCommanding
> jackpatch.nUJWL to quit[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1206
> command_client_to_quit(): Commanding nsm-data.nKVGO to quit[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:1133 wait_for_killed_clients_to_die(): [nsmd] Waiting for
> killed clients to die.../src/nsmd.cpp:2474[nsmd]
>  handle_signal_clean_exit()../src/nsmd.cpp: :1120
> killed_clients_are_alive()Caught SIGNAL 15. Stopping nsmd.: [nsmd] Waiting
> for jackpatch.nUJWL../src/nsmd.cpp:1206 command_client_to_quit():
> Commanding jackpatch.nUJWL to quit[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1206
> command_client_to_quit(): Commanding nsm-data.nKVGO to quit[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:1133 wait_for_killed_clients_to_die(): Waiting for killed
> clients to die.[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1120 killed_clients_are_alive():
> Waiting for jackpatch.nUJWL[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1120[nsmd]
>  killed_clients_are_alive()../src/nsmd.cpp: :1120
> killed_clients_are_alive()Waiting for jackpatch.nUJWL: Waiting for
> jackpatch.nUJWL[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:343[nsmd]
>  handle_client_process_death()../src/nsmd.cpp: :343
> handle_client_process_death(): Client jackpatch.nUJWL terminated by server
> instruction.Client jackpatch.nUJWL terminated by server instruction.[nsmd]
> [nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp../src/nsmd.cpp:1120:1162 killed_clients_are_alive()
> wait_for_killed_clients_to_die(): : Waiting for nsm-data.nKVGOAll clients
> have died.[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:1120 killed_clients_are_alive(): Waiting
> for nsm-data.nKVGO[nsmd] ../src/nsmd.cpp:343 handle_client_process_death():
> Client nsm-data.nKVGO terminated by server instruction.[nsmd]
> ../src/nsmd.cpp:1162 wait_for_killed_clients_to_die(): All clients have
> died.~ >>> *
> *~ >>>*
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> Thankyou both for your assistance.
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> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 4:18 AM <arch-proaudio-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> wrote:
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> > Today's Topics:
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> >    1. Agordejo crash on startup (Kevin Roth)
> >    2. Re: Agordejo crash on startup (bill-auger)
> >    3. Re: Agordejo crash on startup (Nils Hilbricht)
> >    4. Re: Agordejo crash on startup (bill-auger)
> >    5. Re: Agordejo crash on startup (bill-auger)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:58:08 -0800
> > From: Kevin Roth <safepurge@xxxxxxxxx>
> > To: arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject:  Agordejo crash on startup
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> > As the title says, agordejo crashes immediately on startup:
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> > *ERROR:engine.start:Caught crash in execpthook. Trying too execute atexit
> > anywayTraceback (most recent call last):  File
> > "/usr/lib/python3.10/runpy.py", line 196, in _run_module_as_main
> return
> > _run_code(code, main_globals, None,  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/runpy.py",
> > line 86, in _run_code    exec(code, run_globals)  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/__main__.py", line 13, in <module>  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/mainwindow.py", line 183, in __init__  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/mainwindow.py", line 253, in
> > _updateGUIWithCachedPrograms  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/addclientprompt.py", line 123, in updateWordlist
> > File "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/api.py", line 283, in
> > getUnfilteredExecutables  File
> "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py",
> > line 267, in buildCache_unfilteredExecutables  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py", line 267, in <listcomp>  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py", line 262, in isexe  File
> > "/usr/lib/python3.10/pathlib.py", line 1320, in is_file    return
> > S_ISREG(self.stat().st_mode)  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/pathlib.py", line
> > 1095, in stat    return self._accessor.stat(self,
> > follow_symlinks=follow_symlinks)PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission
> > denied: '/usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon'*
> >
> > Running manjaro with jack2. A similar error came and left a few months
> > back. I found references to this issue here
> > <https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/68634> and here
> > <
> >
> https://www.laborejo.org/bugs/Done/agordejo-crash-on-start-using-pipewire-jack
> > >,
> > but no solutions as far as I can tell. I tried switching to pipewire, but
> > the error persists. Raysession seems to work ok though. Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2022 22:26:48 -0500
> > From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
> > To: Kevin Roth via arch-proaudio <arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re:  Agordejo crash on startup
> > Message-ID: <20220117222648.162d93be@parabola.localdomain>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > several other important related packages were upgraded at the
> > same time as the latest agordejo (eg: jack2,
> > new-session-manager, jack2-dbus)
> >
> > agordejo also crashed for me when i first upgraded it - i then
> > restarted the system, and agordejo does not crash now
> >
> > note:
> >
> > > Permission denied: '/usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon'*
> >
> > per that error message, you may also want to look at
> > /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon - that is a foreign file, which
> > does not exist in a clean arch system, and could cause many
> > sorts of problems - the fact that it is the subject of a fatal
> > error message is indicative of something abnormal; but there
> > is not necessarily anything which the arch maintainers have done,
> > or could do about it
> >
> > # pkgfile /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> >
> > if that is the cause of your crash, then it is not a bug for
> > arch to handle - it may be an upstream bug, but it is not a bug
> > within the context of "the arch system" - in that case, this is
> > not a bug report; but a support request, for advice maintaining a
> > "franken-system"
> >
> > if a simple reboot does not help, then the path toward a
> > solution, would be to firstly, remove all non-arch software from
> > your system (retaining only  mainline arch packages), then
> > determine if the bug is still present - _then_ and only then, it
> > would be a problem for the arch maintainers to address - in
> > order to address that problem properly, the first triage step,
> > which anyone would _need_ to do, would be to try reproducing the
> > problem on a clean system if the problem can not be reproduced
> > on a clean system, then it is not a bug - it is more likely a
> > conflict caused by mixing unsupported third-party software into
> > the protected main system
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 11:59:18 +0100
> > From: Nils Hilbricht <nils@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re:  Agordejo crash on startup
> > Message-ID: <20220118115918.cfc10bb758c75cf9719eedf3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > Hello Kevin,
> >
> > could you please provide the output of:
> >
> > agordejo --version
> >
> > ls -la /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> >
> > file /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> >
> > lsattr /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> >
> > And please tell if any of the above commands fail because of a permission
> > error and then what the sudo version of the command reported.
> >
> > If Agordejo is below version 0.3.1 please update first. The new arch
> > community package came out on Saturday.
> >
> > Nils
> >
> > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 11:58:08 -0800
> > safepurge at gmail.com (Kevin Roth) wrote:
> >
> > > As the title says, agordejo crashes immediately on startup:
> > >
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> > > *ERROR:engine.start:Caught crash in execpthook. Trying too execute
> atexit
> > > anywayTraceback (most recent call last):  File
> > > "/usr/lib/python3.10/runpy.py", line 196, in _run_module_as_main
> > return
> > > _run_code(code, main_globals, None,  File
> "/usr/lib/python3.10/runpy.py",
> > > line 86, in _run_code    exec(code, run_globals)  File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/__main__.py", line 13, in <module>  File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/mainwindow.py", line 183, in __init__  File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/mainwindow.py", line 253, in
> > > _updateGUIWithCachedPrograms  File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/qtgui/addclientprompt.py", line 123, in
> updateWordlist
> > > File "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/api.py", line 283, in
> > > getUnfilteredExecutables  File
> > "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py",
> > > line 267, in buildCache_unfilteredExecutables  File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py", line 267, in <listcomp>
> File
> > > "/usr/bin/agordejo/engine/findprograms.py", line 262, in isexe  File
> > > "/usr/lib/python3.10/pathlib.py", line 1320, in is_file    return
> > > S_ISREG(self.stat().st_mode)  File "/usr/lib/python3.10/pathlib.py",
> line
> > > 1095, in stat    return self._accessor.stat(self,
> > > follow_symlinks=follow_symlinks)PermissionError: [Errno 13] Permission
> > > denied: '/usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon'*
> > >
> > > Running manjaro with jack2. A similar error came and left a few months
> > > back. I found references to this issue here
> > > <https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/68634> and here
> > > <
> >
> https://www.laborejo.org/bugs/Done/agordejo-crash-on-start-using-pipewire-jack
> > >,
> > > but no solutions as far as I can tell. I tried switching to pipewire,
> but
> > > the error persists. Raysession seems to work ok though. Any thoughts?
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 07:04:23 -0500
> > From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
> > To: Nils Hilbricht via arch-proaudio
> >         <arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re:  Agordejo crash on startup
> > Message-ID: <20220118070423.77de1c91@parabola.localdomain>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > as a follow-up, i believe that i found a reproducible procedure
> > to isolate the bug
> >
> > my crash yesterday was probably not due to the upgraded
> > release; but due to a peculiar environment quirk - namely, i had
> > /root/.gem/ruby/3.0.0/bin/ in the shell PATH; which was not
> > the case after i rebooted
> >
> > agordejo starts properly:
> > $ PATH=$PATH:/etc/any-thing-works agordejo
> >
> > agordejo crashes:
> > $ PATH=$PATH:/root/any-thing-fails agordejo
> >
> > curiously, /root does not induce the crash:
> > $ PATH=$PATH:/etc/any-thing-works agordejo
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2022 07:09:45 -0500
> > From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
> > To: bill-auger via arch-proaudio <arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re:  Agordejo crash on startup
> > Message-ID: <20220118070945.39a596f1@parabola.localdomain>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 07:04:23 -0500 bill-auger wrote:
> > > curiously, /root does not induce the crash:
> > > $ PATH=$PATH:/etc/any-thing-works agordejo
> >
> >
> > my bad (copy-paste think-o) - i intended such:
> >
> > curiously, /root does not induce the crash:
> > $ PATH=$PATH:/root agordejo
> >
> >
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:25:26 -0500
> From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
> To: Kevin Roth via arch-proaudio <arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  arch-proaudio Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2
> Message-ID: <20220119022526.793a8bf5@parabola.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:36:32 -0800 Kevin wrote:
> > Pamac manager lists Agordejo 0.3.0-1 as the latest release.
>
> that is the latest version; but when reporting bugs, only the
> 'pacman' package manager and the true
> /etc/pacman.{conf,d/mirrorlist} should be considered - like
> raysession, pamac is unsupported software - bug reports should
> be directed toward the AUR maintainers; because only they can
> address them in any way
>
> i am not certain if this list is appropriate - is this list
> intended for general pro-audio tech support (eg: including
> third-party software)? - or is third-party software off-topic on
> this list? - perhaps i am over-emphasizing that distinction
> (that this thread may be entirely unrelated to any standard arch
> software) - the linuxaudio lists/forum/IRC/etc are much more
> used/popular for such tech support questions, no? - that is why
> ive assumed this list had an intention, more special than as
> another general computer music forum
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:36:32 -0800 Kevin wrote:
> > *~ >>> file /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
> >  /usr/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon: broken symbolic link to
> >
> /var/cache/private/pamac/raysession-git/pkg/raysession-git//usr/share/raysession/src/bin/ray-jack_checker_daemon
>
> the above strongly implicates the unsupported raysession and/or
> pamac software, as the source of the problem; which was my
> previous speculation
>
> if this were my problem (the first triage step), i would
> uninstall raysession, pamac, and all software which was ever
> installed by pamac (or simulate that state in a VM), to
> demonstrate that removing one or the other of raysession/pamac,
> resolves the problem (allows agordejo to start)
>
> demonstrating so, would strongly absolve agordejo (and all other
> arch software) as the culprits - then, at least it would be more
> obvious which people/forum would be best for this discussion
>
> does agordejo start, when that raysession package is not
> installed?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2022 03:26:55 -0500
> From: bill-auger <bill-auger@peers.community>
> To: bill-auger via arch-proaudio <arch-proaudio@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re:  arch-proaudio Digest, Vol 31, Issue 2
> Message-ID: <20220119032655.7599c02b@parabola.localdomain>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Wed, 19 Jan 2022 02:25:26 -0500 bill-auger wrote:
> > On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 13:36:32 -0800 Kevin wrote:
> > > Pamac manager lists Agordejo 0.3.0-1 as the latest release.
> > that is the latest version
>
> typo, sry - 0.3.1 is the current arch release
>
>
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