Hello everyone I don't want to make this thread any longer on this subject. On the one hand, you are right those who say that we should not belittle anyone, and not fall into the "in my day people were prettier and smarter", but we can not ignore if because of erroneous educational systems now people are more mediocre and it is not their fault cause those systems. About the problem of education I don't say it myself, there are many studies of experts on the subject talking about it. On the other hand, I am a sysadmin, not a programmer and I respect them a lot, but sometimes because of them I have problems in my job. It's good not to offend anyone, but sometimes our decisions affect others. Imagine that your car breaks down. You take it to the garage and because of a bad mechanic, the car stops on the highway. Objectively, won't you think that the mechanic is bad and to blame for your misfortune? Then we can discuss, if his training was good or bad, if he is a bad mechanic because he was not well supervised by his boss, or if the poor guy had too much work. But we are in the middle of the road As I say, I don't want to make this topic longer but to be more positive I think that pacman manages well all those programs with a lot of dependencies although I tell you, it can be improved and I hate to have to install 50 python packages for one program, but it also happens to me with haskell and pandoc. Regards El Mon, 12 Aug 2024 15:05:50 +0000 Brian Thompson <brianrobt@xxxxx> escribió: > Sorry, new email client. > > It’s not as if it would replace proper programming; I have yet to > > see a functional app built without code. > Agreed. I wasn't implying that it would. > > The art of programming is problem solving, not coding. > 100% agree. > > Best regards, > Brian > On Aug 12, 2024 at 10:03 AM -0500, Brian Thompson <brianrobt@xxxxx>, > wrote: > > > “Anyone can code” is an educational statement so those who have > > > potenial problem solving can learn it. > > Educational statement or not, it attracted a lot of mediocre people > > to the field. > > > If software development is reduced to button-clicking and > > > YAMLmanifests, then there's no incentive to learn that stuff.It’s > > > not as if it would replace proper programming; I have yet to see > > > a functional app built without code. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Brian > > Sent with Spark > > On Aug 12, 2024 at 2:27 AM -0500, tippfehlr > > <tippfehlr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > for one, this was a thread about an unmanaged file in /usr/bin > > > but has evolved first to discussing supply-chain attacks and then > > > to incompetent programmers. > > > > > > > > > > > "Anyone can code" is one of the most ridiculous statements so > > > > > far this millenia > > > > > > “Anyone can code” is an educational statement so those who have > > > potenial problem solving can learn it. > > > > > > > > > > > If software development is reduced to button-clicking and YAML > > > > > manifests, then there's no incentive to learn that stuff. > > > > > > It’s not as if it would replace proper programming; I have yet to > > > see a functional app built without code. > > > > > > The art of programming is problem solving, not coding. > > > > > > -- > > > tippfehlr
