-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 09/28/2014 07:04 AM, Benjamin A. Shelton wrote: > On 09/27/2014 02:13 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >> On Sat, 2014-09-27 at 10:02 +0200, Florian Pelz wrote: >> >>> Same here. With only NoExtract, I linked /bin/sh to dash, >>> reinstalled bash, and /bin/sh was gone. With both NoExtract and >>> NoUpgrade, I did the same and /bin/sh was still a link to >>> dash. >> My bad, until now I'm using NoExtract for files I don't want to >> have, I wasn't aware that a file or link we want to have gets >> lost. > > Okay, so I wasn't *completely* losing my mind (what little of it > there is!). > > Here's what I think is happening (probably wrong, but this is what > I've deduced from further reading and some strace fun): > > Since (re)installing over an existing package first removes its > constituent files, NoExtract alone results in the reinstallation > process removing bash (and the /usr/bin/sh link). But, since the > file is specified as NoExtract, the link/file isn't recreated > during package extraction (it's skipped). NoUpgrade, on the other > hand, prevents the file from being removed (reinstallation must > therefore be considered as an "upgrade" for this purpose) but if > it's not also specified by NoExtract, it's immediately overwritten > by the new copy. > > So, if my understanding is correct, this would explain why both > options must be used in order to keep something relatively > unscathed. NoUpgrade prevents its removal (or more accurately it > "prevents its upgrade"); NoExtract prevents it from being > overwritten. > > Disclaimer: I haven't looked at the pacman sources yet. This is > exclusively from observation and what my (admittedly very limited) > understanding of pacman provides. > > Benjamin That makes sense, even if it is not what I would have expected pacman to do judging from the description in man pacman.conf. Thank you. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJUJ6iJAAoJEMqreLELZNG3wSMP/1zge+KR4yRSi/ZZUTILsqGO 8E6DfmHDfvOvLZddTTiSGmSJm8NV1j4kjjon6ifuW2orEBmd/Hr4L22bCGQrd8X6 oWseS0VoXgxMRmjO/CPKImvOUY3kMmBEYZzV56Ags6iCBQrXo0fkFrg4Gy65+lYc JIH2nnKQLCb5D0JMfcdnicrmTwitqWDPSoE/rbgKpa4bLG/WzvZTClJBP9wOtlaI aWNEUSoEYiXaz2/p9HoEzWGTY22IAz01eVY/PfV0J7nY6h+N2evas+T9Z1Cq3W3D KPJgqjiCSh2f02Sr+iERWl71E5hOEQLQb+b1vI4HsZShwlwpdpRSPbWdiUB878fI pZM8lMURK3yt2nLc5tQ6tcUDmMskcWt/RXw/gLTdDfURGfeymD9362BQPR6tu5/P WxFQekf+ScODStOFU98DUASo7gRdR30+WvVzUwpuAoent/fgLNEQvOX7r8uYX4DT 7RVnmLO2u6SoPD08Xlocd18qqc8EIZJm/lCKzwX/drF7+KKMxVe/vKKzPeGbHhhb gr657+6W3xZBYtSmBvabjq8Tktp/TvLfxiSUGdCxfCSqLqw+hs5UYXNxKAx6GvdT RlX6rlPaylX5cBPWoB1Jt+1fDuTZPZnsMDiYDF0GdCI8P68+zijrmJ9vkXEkF/cj tcdta/fK8ceZogIN/i0Y =R4dC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----