> It is disrespectful not to honor that initscripts is something > good, even if there should be something better now. Don't listen, it isn't better, shell is awesome and so are init scripts though a top notch consensus would be good. I can point out multiple errors and wrong assumptions in just the first few paragraphs on the systemd blog link that was posted again recently but I've had enough time wasted on something that I've come to see as likely to fail or get any more distro coverage. I don't think Lennart has much unix admin experience. I'm not saying don't switch, you will get better support for systemd on this list that's for sure. I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd more than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with constant pass attempts even though passwords are disabled. Be honest Tom, do you think it is less or more risky timewise for him to switch, right now? -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________