On Fri, 2012-08-31 at 09:30 +0200, Mathieu R. wrote: > 2012/8/31 Matthew Monaco <dgbaley27@xxxxxxxxx>: > > On 08/30/2012 07:30 PM, baker.stephen.e@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > >> On August 31, 2012 02:06:56 AM Mathieu R. wrote: > >>> Last update (10 minutes ago) asked me if y want switch from libsystemd > >>> to core/systemd. I agreed, and on next reboot, networkmanager was not > >>> started automaticly from rc.conf. it work well if y start it by hand > >>> (/etc/rc.d/networkmanager start). > >> > >> Does it work if you use systemctl to enable it on boot instead? systemctl > >> enable NetworkManager.service > >> > >> > > > > Mathieu, > > > > Are you using initscripts or systemd? > > i had a working answer on forums, there : > https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1154017#p1154017 > thank you. # pacman -Syu :: Replace libsystemd with core/systemd? [Y/n] # grep DAEMONS /etc/rc.conf DAEMONS=(69switch_xorg.conf hwclock syslog-ng !network !netfs crond acpid dbus networkmanager rtirq) I don't understand "Eliminate the daemons one by one from rc.conf. Start with dbus, which systemd handles very well without any action from you at all". How can I upgrade, but keep a running system? "69switch_xorg.conf" e.g. is a script that switch between 2 xorg.conf regarding to the kernel I boot. If I remove all "daemons" from rc.conf, have I then to set up systemd? Can I simply say "no" regarding to :: Replace libsystemd with core/systemd? [Y/n] n :: Replace systemd-tools with core/systemd? [Y/n] n but say yes regarding to Targets (16): cracklib-2.8.19-1 filesystem-2012.8-1 glibc-2.16.0-4 gnutls-3.1.0-1 imagemagick-6.7.9.2-1 initscripts-2012.08.3-2 khrplatform-devel-8.0.4-3 lib32-gdk-pixbuf2-2.26.3-1 lib32-glibc-2.16.0-4 libdrm-2.4.39-1 libegl-8.0.4-3 libgbm-8.0.4-3 libglapi-8.0.4-3 libwebkit3-1.8.3-1 mesa-8.0.4-3 rpcbind-0.2.0-9 ? I can't see any information at http://www.archlinux.org/ or https://www.archlinux.de/. I'm confused. Regards, Ralf