On 22/08/12 at 04:23am, Sven-Hendrik Haase wrote: > On 22.08.2012 02:48, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Sven-Hendrik Haase <sh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>On 22.08.2012 02:10, Felipe Contreras wrote: > >>>On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:48 AM, Patrick Murphy <thegerdur@xxxxxxxxx> > >>>wrote: > >>>>Could you give me a brief explanation as to why init scripts are better? > >>>>I'm newish to Unix style operating systems > >>>As I said; they are tried-and-true since *decades*, all the problems > >>>have been ironed out by slow small changes, so if somebody has > >>>problems they are probably hitting very few people. > >>> > >>>Switching to systemd is not a small change, it's a revolutionary > >>>change, with the potential to break many people's boot (it has broken > >>>things in Fedora, and openSUSE, and it's happening in Arch Linux as > >>>well). So, a sensible person would wait until a sensible time to make > >>>the big switch (which is clearly not now). > >>> > >>Arch is not sensible in the conservative sense. Being conservative here > >>means waiting for others to make the software more stable. This is not > >>really what Arch is about. We regularly move to software that is > >>just-about-enough stable to be used. As far as I am concerned, systemd is at > >>that point since I was able to convert my laptop to it without any problems > >>at all. > >So if it works for you, it will surely work for *everybody* else. I > >have seen this argument so many times that I'm starting to worry about > >the rationality of Arch Linux users and developers. > > I said "As far as I am concerned, systemd is at that point since I > was able to convert my laptop to it without any problems at all." > You say I somehow said something along the lines of "As far as I am > concerned, systemd is at that point since I was able to convert my > laptop to it without any problems at all so it will surely work for > *everybody* else." > > I suppose you are mostly trolling at this point anyway but at least > don't make it so obvious! > If you look back through this thread, or the other one he started[0], you will see that is his consistent approach: misrepresent what others have said so that he can counter with even more FUD. It's as predictable as it is pathetic. 0. http://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/arch-general/2012-August/029856.html -- http://jasonwryan.com/ [GnuPG Key: B1BD4E40]
